Hi Bruce and gang,
I don't think we should think of DXCC as a competition, but rather personal
goals since everyone's station is totally different including location.
Nevertheless I too believe FT8 should be a separate category, and I feel
David (K3KY) has made the strongest case I have ever heard for doing this,
and that's band (spectrum) preservation. The ARRL like all hams are very
concerned about protecting our bands from other radio services, and making
FT8 a separate category would certainly support the protection efforts
(provide incentive for folks to still use CW or Phone to acquire DXCC CW or
DXCC Phone awards, thus helping to keep our assigned spectrum's active as
much as possible).
Don Kirk (wd8dsb)
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:04 AM FZ Bruce <k1fz@twc.com> wrote:
> Yes the ARRL needs to step up.
>
> Years ago there were foot races, then after the invention of the
> bicycle races between them were common. After the automobile was
> invented they raced. No one seriously thought of foot racing
> (competing) against a bicycle or automobile.
> ARRL DXCC competition bands need sub categories.
> 73
> Bruce-K1FZ
>
> -----------------------------------------From: "uy0zg"
> To: "Andrzej_SP6AEG"
> Cc: topband@contesting.com
> Sent: Thursday August 1 2019 8:53:37AM
> Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
>
> Hi Andy Hi All
>
> Absolutely simple and correct.
>
> Why don't ARRL leaders understand this?
>
> It is not possible to equate the results of a robot operator with the
>
> results of a human operator.
>
> For FT8, there should only be a separate category for DXCC.
>
> ---
> Nick, UY0ZG
> http://www.topband.in.ua [1]
>
> Andrzej_SP6AEG писал 2019-08-01 14:20:
> > In my humble opinion, FT8 should have nothing to do with the
> > competitors of
> > DXCC Mix, CW, SSB or RTTY. RTTY emission was killed in short
> > wavelengths,
> > expeditions in the increasing percentage use FT8 as the basic
> emission
> > and
> > this is not due to the lack of propagation. I think, the issue of
> FT8
> > should
> > be treated as a separate competition not included in DXCC Mix, CW,
> SSB
> > and
> > digital. Then we can talk about competition. Otherwise, it loses
> the
> > value
> > of DXCC from before FT8. The discussions on this list about
> receiving
> > antennas, the fight against QRM, etc. will end.
> >
> > Andy
> > SP6AEG
> > ==========================================
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > uy0zg
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:09 PM
> > To: Peter Sundberg
> > Cc: daraymond@iowatelecom.net; k1zm@aol.com; topband@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
> >
> > Hi Topbanders !
> >
> >
> > Everything is easy to fix.
> >
> > There should be a strict separation of achievements -
> >
> > 1. They are made only by man.
> >
> > 2. They are made only on the computer.
> >
> >
> > Delete Mixed Achievement Chart :
> >
> > http://www.topband.in.ua [2]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter Sundberg писал 2019-07-31 20:31:
> >> If we CW operators would all stay on a very tight frequency
> passband
> >> and call CQ every 15 seconds I bet there would be a lot of
> interesting
> >> things happening to us also. Especially if we do it 24/7 or at
> least
> >> every hour that we are not asleep.
> >>
> >> However, PC-automation has it's advantages, some are at work while
> >> working DX and others are gardening. Some even sit by the radio/PC
> and
> >> watch things happen :-)
> >>
> >> Bottom line is, we need to activate our transmitters more and not
> just
> >> listen for others. A perfect example is Bill KH7XS who opens up
> almost
> >> any seemingly "dead" band to Europe, at any time, just by calling
> CQ
> >> for a while.
> >>
> >> CW is not only great fun as you say Dave, CW is King!
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Peter SM2CEW
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> [2]
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> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20190731-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
>
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20190731-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
> /> > uto,-12,848
> >
> > And then FT8 (and many future FTs ....) will lose popularity.
> >
> > Only children will play with them ...
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Nick, UY0ZG
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