I agree with Paul. This is a nice tool to check out antenna changes. You can
see if you've improved your signal into a targeted area.
I also see the possibility of abuse during contests, if it isn't already
happening.
As to diminishing existing accomplishments, I speculate that has been said with
every technological advance. We're all standing on the shoulders of someone who
discovered a better way of doing it. I'm sure even Stew would have loved to
have his hands on the receivers we consider common and the improvements in Rx
antennas. Of course, I'd love to go back to the 70s, without LORAN, with all
the ham operators who were located in what are "rare" DXCC now working the Top
Band ;o)
73,
Julius
Julius Fazekas
N2WN
Tennessee Contest Group
http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html
http://groups.google.com/group/tcg1?hl=en
Tennessee QSO Party
http://www.tnqp.org/
Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
Elecraft K3/100 #1875
--- On Tue, 12/29/09, PaulKB8N@aol.com <PaulKB8N@aol.com> wrote:
> From: PaulKB8N@aol.com <PaulKB8N@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Europrean SDR on 160M
> To: fdavis@nfld.net, topband@contesting.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 5:09 PM
> Frank,
>
> I certainly can see both possibilities and pitfalls with
> remote receivers.
> The odd thing is that if SDRs were used at both ends
> of the conversation,
> you might be able to work DX any time of day or night
> on 160M, as long as
> both stations could be heard by a nearby remote SDR
> site. Strange indeed.
>
> Of course, that really isn't a DX QSO, and, other than the
> novelty of it
> all, it really isn't ham radio as we currently know
> it. However, as a small
> pistol, I can see some advantages. I would love to
> hear my actual signal
> in distant locations. It would be a great way to
> really gather comparative
> data on multiple antenna types over a given DX
> path. It would also be a
> great way to find out what paths are open in various parts
> of the world
> independent of activity level.
>
> There have already been some who are tepid about this
> technology. I
> believe it is yet another tool at our disposal, we just
> have to be careful not
> to hurt ourselves with it!
>
> Paul, K5AF
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/29/2009 1:41:27 P.M. Central Standard
> Time,
> fdavis@nfld.net
> writes:
>
> Jacques
>
> Definitely YES it is possible to easily do
> Trans-Atlantic DX QSo's with Eu
> now with NO receiver !! I did it last night
> . I worked quite a number of
> Eu stations on 1815khz by listening to the SDR rx in
> Trent on the web. My
> FT1000MP was on and I could copy the signals over the
> air BUT the copy via
> the web was much easier .... signals very loud from
> the PC over the same
> speaker I use for the FT 1KMP.
>
> There is some latency in the signal transfer but not
> significant. I could
> also hear my own signal quite clearly but with a
> slight delay through the
> SDR. I had to focus on my CW sending and not my
> own reflected signal in
> order to send properly. I am sure that SDR on
> the web was not intended to
> replace full QSO's over the air but it is possible to
> do it. It is an
> unintended outcome I am sure.
>
> Lets take this scenario: Supposing UA0XXX Zone 19 is
> being heard in Eu on
> the SDR antenna but not in east NA......also lets say
> that VO1XYZ is being
> heard in Eu on the SDR antenna but not at UA0XXX
> QTH. A QSO is possible
> if
> the two operators do co-ordination through one of the
> DX chat groups or by
> email. No self respecting Dx'er
> would do this of course but the
> technology
> is now there to make it possible.
>
> Is this DXing ...definitely not BUT it can be
> done. One wonders what the
> future will hold for us with the advent of
> these technologies and
> applications.
>
> 73 Frank VO1HP
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jacques RAMBAUD" <f6bki@orange.fr>
> To: "Frank" <fdavis@nfld.net>
> Sent: December 29, 2009 14:06
> Subject: Re: Topband: Europrean SDR on 160M
>
>
> > If I understand correctly you can make DX qso even if
> you do not hear
> the
> > DX
> > station at all ???
> > 73
> > Jacques F6BKI
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Frank" <fdavis@nfld.net>
> > To: <topband@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:08 PM
> > Subject: Topband: Europrean SDR on 160M
> >
> >
> > Last night I was alerted by Gus VO1MP of some
> new SDR websites in Europe
> .
> > Check HB9FX: http://hb9fx-websdr.dyndns.org/ and also a seven rx
> site in
> > Trent at: http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
> >
> > It was facinating to listen to 160M from a
> receiver based in Europe.
> > Tremendously strong sigs in the PC
> speaker. I called CQ on 1815 and
> > worked
> > a few Eu stations by listening to their signals
> on the European SDR not
>
> > on
> > my shack rx. The guys I worked were good copy on
> my K9AY and FT1KMP but
> I
> > just turned down the AF gain. I
> could also hear my own signal coming
> > back
> > through the SDR even though I could only see the
> faintest of lines on the
> > waterfall display. Surprising
> to me were the many NA stations very
> > strong
> > with me not being heard on the Eu SDR. Don't
> know yet what kind of
> > antennas
> > are being used over there.
> >
> > This may be old news to many but check it
> out!
> >
> > 73 Frank VO1HP
> >
> >
> >
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