Hey Gary,
You took the words out of my mouth. I also listened on the calling QRG
and found the same OTers calling, calling and calling w/o listening. One
reason I like QSK so much is that I can stop calling as soon as I hear the
station come back to someone, maybe even me.
73 de Walt - K2WK
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> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary
> Smith
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:55 AM
> To: Topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: What IS troubling about this report
>
> What is sad to me is all of the bad things that have been mentioned
> are seen affecting every DXpedetion or unusual DX working today. It's
> not just the common experience of dealing with these LIDS, it is the
> unrelenting, continuous experience of it. I'm sure there isn't one
> example of stupidity in operation I can comment on that isn't
> familiar to each of us.
>
> I was listening to a pileup from the E3 and some lid East NE from my
> oceanside QTH kept calling; NA NA NA only NA NA NA ad nauseum. Then
> came OBAMA OBAMA NA NA NA. It's obvious the guy is mentally disturbed
> but that's tough to keep listening to when you're trying to hear a
> faint DX signal through him. It sure would have been helpful if the
> E3 would have shifted Tx freq a bit. Somebody sent something back to
> the lid about his mother and amazingly the QRM stopped with that but
> moments later so did the E3. The LID got his wish.
>
> As many have mentioned, the incessant calling when the the DX is not
> calling to them is pervasive and also seemingly eternal, crosses
> international sources and is by no means confined to new hams who
> don't know the code. I was curious to listen to the people calling
> the DX, as if I were the DX, and listened with the main & sub on the
> K3, the DX in the left ear & the pileup in the right.
>
> It was incredible to hear so many older calls were completely
> ignoring who the DX was trying to pull out; The DX calls AA2? and
> W1..., KP4..., W5.. not to mention myriads of EU and SA are calling
> in the pileup, calls that long predate any no-code licensing period.
> These guys know exactly what they are doing and it is intentional QRM
> of a different sort. I do feel rankled when people blame this on the
> no-code licensees. I got my Extra back 35 years ago so I have no dog
> in this no-code = bad CW operators in the pileups hunt. Seems to me
> the vast majority of offenders are long term hams who have lost their
> upbringing.
>
> One more thing I lament tremendously (non-pileup related), is the
> lack of interest in name, real signal report & QTH with a QSO
> now-a-days. I understand computer logging makes so much irrelevant
> like name/QTH and that a signal report is sort of useless anyway as
> someone with an indoor dipole in the basement won't give or get the
> same report as a triband would give at the same QTH, but it is
> tradition. For sure, only rarely with todays radios worldwide do I
> hear bad signals. But... I feel badly when I make a non-DXpedetion Q
> and I send 579 name is Gary QTH CT and get a TU CQ CQ CQ DE XYZ
> in return.
>
> When I hear a bad signal on the air, I now-a-days send them an email
> telling them date time freq & what their signal sounds like, I would
> want to know if my signal was defective. Amazing how very few replies
> I get back from those comments. Makes me wonder if they like that
> situation as it makes their signal stand out over the clean ones.
>
> I heard JA1NUT CQing on 15M CW & remembered his QSL card from
> ragchews long ago, gave him a call & had a45 minute ragchew with him,
> the first CW ragchew I've had in years it seems. Our first QSO was in
> 87, had a couple more till 97 and hadn't heard him till this this one
> in 2014. During the QSO we both lamented the loss of CW ragchews and
> the vogue contest-like/minimalist-style QSOs of today. I really
> appreciated that QSO with him.
>
> One of the things I like about this and its brother-"contesting"
> forums is what seems to be a common bond of interest in maintaining
> dignity in Ham Radio, and achieving a station that hears well and
> transmits well. I always look to see what new email comes into this
> folder for I know that among us are the people that make Ham Radio
> fun and something to share with newcomers to the hobby.
>
> These other people who don't listen or think when they transmit are
> beyond my
> comprehension.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
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