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Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contest

To: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 09:04:17 -0700
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With 1/3 of the worlds hams in Japan (1.2M) as one mult and many EU countries with less 10k hams each as a mult the whole way most contests are scored makes no sense. Of course there is no perfectly fair system of scoring, but Stew Perry has some ideas that may work as a new HF contest. It might get many more into the game on a more equitable basis. Of course many will despise more contesters on the air. population data at http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=26284

A midwest station has no understanding of how north of 46 degree latitude west coast propagation is a real "black hole". But we do have plenty of free 100' tall antenna supports.

Grant KZ1W

On 3/16/2015 12:27 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

I strongly disagree with W2GD on one thing though. DX Contesting is an East Coast Old Boys' Club, and while it makes them happy and boosts their egos, it is NOT good for contesting in general. There is VERY little interest in DX contesting west of the Rockies in proportion to the numbers of hams in each region. It is LONG past time for DX Contest scoring rules to be changed so that those outside the East Coast are in the game.


I agree with you on this one but it is a different can of worms. I have yet to hear of a scoring system that would allow stations in the black hole of middle America and west compete against the East Coast stations.

Since the organizers are almost all East Coasters there probably is not much interest in changing their contests.

As K0EU said after the ARRL DX contest, he worked his ass off and probably broke the record in Colorado but won't even finish near the top 10.

The only chance we had was when JA's could be worked for hours in the evenings and we had to have decent EU openings.

Probably the only fair way would be to make each state effectively a separate country and you would compete against people in your state, which are about the same size as many EU countries, however Colorado would never win the NA award.

I was surprised that 20m was not filled edge to edge with contest stations during the ARRL SSB contest. Maybe people are tiring of the inequities.
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