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Re: Topband: Radials help

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Subject: Re: Topband: Radials help
From: <donovanf@starpower.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:50:19 -0500 (EST)
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Not enough room for towers and radials?  Antennas aren't big enough?

Here's an employment opportunity to work on ELF antennas at the 2 megawatt U.S. 
Navy NAA transmitter in sunny, warm Cutler, Maine.

https://applicationmanager.gov/Questionnaire.aspx?ID=4313317&PreviewType=Questionnaire

http://www.navy-radio.com/commsta/cutler.htm

73
Frank
W3LPL

---- Original message ----
>Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:34:05 -0500
>From: Eddy Swynar <deswynar@xplornet.ca>  
>Subject: Re: Topband: Radials help  
>To: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net>
>Cc: topband@contesting.com, herbs@vitelcom.net
>
>
>On 2012-02-10, at 1:21 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>
>> If any of you think an insulated radial field can just plopped down based on 
>> a formula on just any plot of land and be efficient, think again. All that 
>> is necessary to be abysmally INefficient is for the construction ground fill 
>> underneath your sod to be variable in composition, or contain metallic pipes 
>> or buried wires or a septic system.  In this case your radials are no longer 
>> ELECTRICALLY dense and uniform, current distribution becomes wacky, 
>> effectively removing radials from the system, and the radial system has 
>> become an unbalanced ground heater, and quite inferior to an elevated 
>> counterpoise. (Sound familiar?)
>> 
>
>Hi Guy,
>
>All this talk about "idealized" radial systems, vs. "compromised" radial 
>fields, hearkens me back to the words of an old Rolling Stones song, to whit:
>
>"You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you just might 
>find you get what you need." 
>
>I'll never have the proverbial "120 full-length radials" here (what I may 
>want), so I'll just have to make do with my 24 one-eighth wave compromises 
>(what I need---certainly better than no radials at all! Hi).
>
>~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>
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