It seems odd to me that 60 plus percent of all contacts submitted to
club log are using a mode that nobody likes. Maybe just maybe a lot of
people really like the mode and most are actually sitting in front of
their radio having fun. How could that be?
That stat is staggering. Seems like the bands are being used. Maybe we
should be thankful for FT8. 300k contacts submitted to Club log,
obviously that is not the total number contacts made over 7 days across
the bands but over 200k are FT8. If FT8 did not exist what would be the
difference. I would suggest that a good portion of those contacts would
never have happened. Those folks would not have gone back to CW or
SSB. Many of those stations now making FT8 contacts had very difficult
times trying to work any DX.
Will FT8 die off when everyone has worked them all? Maybe. Maybe not.
It will be curious to see how FT4 contesting is received.
Back to building my robot.
W0MU
On 8/3/2019 12:20 PM, donovanf@starpower.net wrote:
Hi Bob
The "how to" article is right here:
http://p1k.arrl.org/pubs_archive/63144
73
Frank
W3LPL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Brennan via Topband" <topband@contesting.com>
To: "Cecil" <chacuff@cableone.net>
Cc: "rich k7zv" <rich_k7zv@gphilltop.com>, "Harald Rester" <harryrester@gmx.de>, "Alan
Swinger" <awswinger@earthlink.net>, topband@contesting.com
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 10:00:03 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: 160
Gentleman,
I have been using ft8 now for a little over a year now and have been relatively
successful with it.
I also use CW and SSB.
If I can set up my station on ft8 and have it run automatically and collect new
entities.
I would really like to know how to do that.
Perhaps one of you can write an article for QST.
73 Bob ad6hf
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Cecil <chacuff@cableone.net> wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Alan Swinger <awswinger@earthlink.net> wrote:
. Since FT8 operators can walk away and not participate in QSOs, and come back
after some other activity and see how many new countries and QSOs that the
computer made, this is unlike Digital modes where operators must remain engaged
to make QSOs. Therefore, seems to me that such Computer-generated contacts
should have a separate category in the current award systems since the
operators are not directly involved in making the QSOs . . . call it
Computer-Aided Digital or something more clever. No argument that skill is
required to set up a station to make FT-8 contacts, but a different set than
what those of us who work DXCC, Challenge, etc use on CW, RTTY, and SSB,
including those towers, expensive equipment, skills, and years of hard work to
get the new ones when there was NO FT-8 or similar modes!
So, I do not be begrudge the new low signal computer-aided modes, nor do I cast
aspersions on the Ops who enjoy using them . . . even though I am unlikely to
join their ranks, but the Ham community should not penalize those of us who
used non-FT modes to get our hard earned awards by giving an unfair advantage
to a new technology. We (Ham Radio) need the New Technology, but these modes
are sufficiently different in many ways from the older modes that justifies a
separate category in the award spectrum. Therefore, I urge the ARRL and the CQ
Magazine leadership to establish a Digital award category that is separate and
different from the current DXCC et al Digital criteria.
Alan Swinger K9MBQ
Charlottesville, VA
-----Original Message-----
From: rich_k7zv@gphilltop.com
Sent: Aug 2, 2019 4:22 PM
To: Harald Rester <harryrester@gmx.de>
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: 160
As ham radio changes there will remain at least a niche for CW, SSB, and
RTTY and it's competitions. FT8 will supplement the bands , not supplant
it, IMO. Do you think FT8, FT4 and whatever digital modes come along are
the future or will something else take its place? Who knows... time and
technology moves on. Maybe it might attract some of the Millennials to
fill in the void by us Baby Boomers who will all too soon be making.
Let's set a good example for them to follow.
Rich K7ZV
On 2019-08-02 12:42 pm, Harald Rester wrote:
Think about the time *we all *could have been on the air, while staring
at our screens, typing and reading. I make QSY to the shack - Hpe CU!
Harry, DH1NBE
Am 02.08.2019 um 21:26 schrieb uy0zg:
I do not propose stopping the FT8.
just compete with each other.
But keep in mind - Arnold will be the first -)):
https://www.alamy.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-terminator-2-judgment-day-1991-image66516208.html
---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua
W0MU Mike Fatchett писал 2019-08-02 21:52:
Ah so all FT8 users are cheaters. Does that mean that all Russian
hams use way more power than they should and their scores should not
count either?
The real issue here is change. Ham radio has been in constant motion
and change since it started and I hope in continues that way well
after we are dead.
So we better stop FT8 and protect VE1ZZ?
Sorry no.
Good day.
On 8/2/2019 12:45 PM, uy0zg wrote:
Hello, Mike
This is how the world works so that humanity always has moral
values.
They must be protected.
Example:
in a few years, 334 VE1ZZ countries will lose their value. His
achievements will be eaten by computer programs and robots ....
It is right ?
Will there be many talents at 160 meters like Jack?
Will not be !
On the contrary - more and more stupidity and envy....
---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua
W0MU Mike Fatchett писал 2019-08-02 18:24:
Cheating is cheating. How many people used remote stations,
exceeded
their power limits, etc. Singling out a mode because you are
upset
that it has taken away activity in your preferred mode is not
helpful
to the hobby. Not everyone that use FT8 cheats. Not everyone
that
uses a amp that exceeds their legal limit uses it in that fashion.
How can you guarantee that everyone on the "Honor Role" was 100
percent honorable or even anyone that got DXCC did it right? You
can't so please stop singling out a mode you don't care for. We
get
it. Move on. It is here. Just like the Reverse beacon, packet
cluster, etc.
We are all hams enjoying many aspects of the hobby. Can't we get
along?
W0MU
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