Glenn nailed it.
If you don't like it, don't use it. No one is forcing anyone to comply.
It is really that simple.
Mike va3mw
> On May 21, 2017, at 6:09 AM, Glenn Wyant <va3dx@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> If an amateur has interest in psk, jt65 etc or EME, cw or any band
> or mode; it is not for us to judge his particular interests.
>
> VA3DX
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <k8bhz@alphacomm.net>
> To: <Topband@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Topband: Top Band and JT65
>
>
>> Promised myself I'd stay out of this, but it's getting
>> ridiculous....Comments like "I worked 20 new ones on 160, and I never heard
>> any of them!". Wow! That's amazing...I personally can't find any
>> satisfaction in claiming a contact I never heard. I never have...Yes, the
>> digi modes allow easier qso's that would never have been made, but let's
>> face it, you never made those contacts, your computer & it's software did.
>> Any resulting "Awards" should be made out to your computer. Meteor scatter
>> used to be very popular, actually getting to hear the excited voices of
>> those you worked was thrilling. One m/s qso of mine was with a yl from the
>> Carolinas with a most delightful Southern accent...hard to duplicate with
>> digi modes. I don't know anyone who works or talks about rocks anymore....no
>> challenge. Same with eme, which I pulled the plug on when it was no longer a
>> challenge. How many new eme operators have heard their own voices coming
>> back from the moon? I migrated to TopBand as
one of the last real challenges left....
>> I find the litany of excuses about why one has to go to digital means on 160
>> to be feeble at best." My rig can't cut it, I don't have the antennas, I
>> can't copy code (one of the real elephants in the room!), my location isn't
>> on the coast where it's easy, etc, etc". There are MANY dxers operating
>> successfully on small lots, and there are a myriad of clever, small
>> receiving antennas out there. How about the gentleman on the left coast who
>> worked DXCC on 160 from his mobile!! (without digital modes).
>> My TopBand rig is quite modest, no towers or rotors. The TX antennas are
>> wires hanging from trees with no more than 50' vertical rise. The 16 radials
>> under each are only 48' long. Desperately needing a new rig, I bought the
>> very cheapest HF transceiver on the market (no DSP, keyer, antenna tuner,
>> etc). My location in Upper Michigan is not near either coast for "easy" dx,
>> but is unfortunately close to the auroral oval. My amp was a non-working
>> "gift" that doesn't run full power. However, I have 233 countries & 37 zones
>> confirmed on 160. I have personally HEARD every qso made & have decoded them
>> as necessary, in my HEAD. I don't spot myself or arrange skeds....I don't
>> have a computer in the shack.
>> If ham radio was to go all digital, I would walk away from it....Not because
>> I'm a curmudgeon, but simply because the challenge and resulting thrills
>> would be gone.
>> Lest you think I am a ignorant technophobe, I am a degreed electrical
>> engineer and have been a ham for over 60 years. I have a fine computer & am
>> on it actively every day....but I never pretend that it's ham radio.
>> I realize from the comment below that it's rather boring to work digi modes,
>> but I suspect that help is on the way....I am truly surprised that no one
>> has produced an "app" that will take the remaining work out of it. You would
>> simply download the app, check the appropriate boxes (DXCC, WAS, WAZ),
>> select the desired bands, and turn it loose 24 hours a day. It would make
>> all the contacts for you (with similar robo-stations) and send you a text or
>> email when it's through. Heck, it could even apply for your desired awards,
>> and then wake up your printer to print your award certificate out! It would
>> then send another message to pick up your award....How truly exciting that
>> would be.
>> Brian K8BHZ
>> 2017 12:39 AM, DXer wrote:
>>> >>>To me, just not the challenge of dxing mostly cw and ssb.
>>>
>>> Fair enough. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
>>>
>>> Another angle. I find JT65 to be a very relaxing mode. Which other mode
>>> allows one to read and write emails, go get a coffee, answer 'nature's
>>> call', etc. while making contacts? Timing is important, but doable. :^)
>>>
>>> 73 de Vince, VA3VF
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