Hi Ray
I would say TX3A did balanced 160m activity and proved that it is possible
to achieve using dedicated RX antenna for the location of the DX expedition,
most DX expeditions does not pay attention or do not get well prepared for
RX on low bands. It does not mean dedication bit the results speak for it
self.
See TX3A balance between HF and 160m, less the 10% of the QSO's on 160m, but
36K QSO is very good for only tow operators.
>>
TX3A was on the air from Chesterfield Reef from November 3 to Nov 30, 2009.
This was another simple low-band DXpedition by George (AA7JV) and Tomi
(HA7RY). During 28 days of operation we made a total of 36,148 QSO-s, of
which 3,425 were on 160 meters
>>
Regards
JC
N4IS
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From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ray Benny
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 1:53 PM
To: Milt -- N5IA
Cc: TopBand List
Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
Milt,
"In this aspect all DXpeditions are equal."
Just one comment: Having a large person expedition can yield large
differences in 160m Q's compared to a two person expedition. On a two man
operation, the ops must decide what band to operate at night, 30, 40, 80 or
160m. They may want to make Q's on all these bands so must split their time
accordingly. A large M/M effort usually have ops on each band so the ops can
spend all their time on one band.
I realize the HA guys expeditions (AA7JV) were generally dedicated to 160m,
so this was not the case. But in other cases the number of ops does affect
the number of Q's on 160m.
Just my opinion. Other than that, very interesting information...
Ray,
N6VR
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Milt -- N5IA <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
wrote:
> Good evening all.
>
> The K1N final numbers are in.
>
> I also received some further statistics from Bernd, DF3CB, which
> slightly change the order of the standings.
>
> I received come comments about propagation differences. The following
> are, IMHO, the relevant factors.
>
> DX is DX no matter what band, but in particular on 160 Meters the
> farther you are from the majority of the contacts, the more difficult
> the possibility of large amounts of QSOs.
> Proximity to major ham population areas is the top contributor to the
> leading Q counts.
>
> It does not matter, IMHO, if the DXpedition is 2-man, 25-man, or
> anywhere in between, there is typically only one station and one
> operator at a time on Topband. They do not do both modes
> simultaneously on Topband. In this aspsect all DXpeditions are equal.
>
> Timing with the sunspot cycle is the next limiting factor. The
> reduction of the size and intensity of the polar ovals with low
> sunspots greatly assists the long, opposite side of the planet paths.
>
> Those operations that take place at or near the equator are always
> affected by QRN.
>
> IMHO the operations at 5A7A, K5D, K1N, R1MVW, HK0NA, TS7C,and TX5K did
> an extremely good job and were able to take advantage of the proximity
> to major population areas. They had to have a good station and great
> operators, and had to be on the ground long enough to take make the
> large amount of Qs.
>
> But, and again IMHO, the operations at VP6DX, T32C, and ZL8X are
> OUTSTANDING because they had to overcome the big one; DISTANCE, for
> nearly 100% of their Qs.
>
> Now to separate those three just a bit.
>
> ZL8X did 4,206 Qs with a crew of 14 operators and 18 days of operation.
>
> T32C did 4,985 Qs with a crew of 41 operators and 32 days of operation.
>
> VP6DX did 6,671 Qs with a crew of 13 operators and 17 days of operation.
>
> In all cases subtract at a minimum two days from the operation total
> to apply to the 160 M operations.
>
> Enjoy, and look for the upcoming web site by Bernd, DF3CB, with all
> the details and breakdowns of all the DXpeditions.
>
> 73 de Milt, N5IA
>
> ============================================================
> =======================
>
> #1
>
> 5A7A, Libya, near Tripoli, with the entire European continent less
> than
> 4,000 KM distant.
>
> CW SSB RTTY PSK Total
> 160 M 6344 928 283 98 7653
> ============================================================
> =======================
>
> #2
>
> K5D, Desecheo, Caribbean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less
> than
> 5,600 KM distant.
>
> SSB CW RTTY Total
> 160 M 1983 5213 0 7196
> ============================================================
> =======================
>
> #3
>
> VP6DX, Ducie Atoll, from the middle of the south Pacific in the
> southern hemisphere summer. There was strong QRN and somewhat shorter
> nights (operating periods on Topband).
>
> ZL = 5,400+ KM; VK = 8,000 to 11,700 KM; KH6 = 5,800+ KM; JA =
> 11,900+ KM; west coast of South America = 5,000+ KM; Rio de Janeiro =
> 8,100 KM; San Diego, USA = 6,400 KM; NYC, USA = 8,900 KM; and in EU --
> Madrid = 14,200 KM; London = 14,400 KM; Berlin = 15,200 KM; Rome =
> 15,690 KM; Moscow = 16,100 KM; Athens = 16,600 KM.
>
> CW SSB RTTY Total
> 160 M 5097 1574 0 6671
> ============================================================
> =======================
>
> #4
>
> K1N, Navassa, Carribean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less
> than
> 5,600 KM distant.
>
> CW SSB RTTY Total
> 160 M 5399 0 0 5399
> ============================================================
> ======================
>
> #5
>
> R1MVW/MVC, Malyj Vysotskij, from the north Baltic Sea, where the most
> distant part of Europe, Gibraltar, is only 3,600 KM distant.
>
> CW SSB RTTY Total
> 160 M ? ? ? 5082
> ============================================================
> =================
>
> #6
>
> T32C, Kiritimati Island, from near the center of the Pacific Ocean,
> 200 KM north of the Equator.
>
> ZL = 5,100+ KM; VK = 6,200 to 10,000 KM; KH6 = 1,900+ KM; JA =
> 7,400+ KM; west coast of South America = 8,500+ KM; Rio de Janeiro =
> 12,600 KM; San Diego, USA = 5,400 KM; NYC, USA = 9,300 KM; and in EU
> -- Madrid = 14,600 KM; London = 13,700 KM; Berlin = 13,900 KM; Rome
> = 15,050 KM; Moscow = 13,460 KM; Athens = 15,580 KM.
>
> SSB CW PSK RTTY PSK63F Total
> 160 M 917 3573 4 449 41 4984
> ============================================================
> ======================
>
> #7
>
> HK0NA, Malpelo, off SW coast of Central America, with the entire USA
> and most of Canada less than 7,000 KM distant.
>
> SSB CW RTTY Total
> 160 M 802 4138 0 4940
> ============================================================
> ======================
>
> #8
>
> TS7C, Kerkennah Island, off the west coast of Tunisia, with the entire
> European continent less than 4,000 KM distant.
>
> SSB CW RTTY Total
> 160 M ? ? ? 4311
> ============================================================
> ===================
>
> #9
>
> ZL8X, Kermandec Islands, 1,000 KM north of New Zealand, north island.
>
> VK = 2,800 to 6,800 KM; KH6 = 5,900 KM; JA = 8,400+ KM; west coast
> of South America = 9,000+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 12,500 KM; San Diego,
> USA = 9,400 KM; NYC, USA = 13,200 KM; and in EU -- Madrid = 18,700
> KM; London = 17,500 KM; Berlin = 17,300 KM; Rome = 18,300 KM;
> Moscow = 16,000 KM; Athens = 17,800 KM.
>
> SSB CW RTTY Total
> 160 M 423 3662 0 4206
> ============================================================
> ===================
>
> #10
>
> TX5K, Clipperton Island, off SW coast of Mexico, with the entire USA
> and most of Canada less than 6,000 KM distant.
>
> SSB CW RTTY Total
> 160 M 423 3662 0 4085
>
>
>
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