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[TenTec] Argonaut V - I did purchase

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Subject: [TenTec] Argonaut V - I did purchase
From: shack@tomochka.com (KS7J)
Date: Wed Jul 23 00:16:39 2003
Mike,

I did enjoy the exchange, sorry if it seemed a bit contentious at times.
Yes, I did bring up the "twins", but I guess I wasn't clear about trying to
make a more or less equal comparison by including an LDG tuner for the Argo
and the K2 ATU and not the PA. Anyway, there really is no way to accurately
compare them since they are just different animals in several aspects.

I find I have a tendency to collect too many radios (hi hi) but wish I had
room right now for an Argo actually, would be fun. Instead I will build up
the "K-Twins" as well, since I just picked up another K2 with the PA
built-in and will move the PA to the EC2 enclosure and QRO ATU. I
rationalized that I would probably not really carry my current K2 between
the house station and the "real" station in my detached shack, so the extra
K2 will be cool. And since the xyl is spending the rest of our money on a
bath remodel, well... I feel some justification, hi hi...  but this is a TT
list and I digress greatly... we'll see how long it is before I just have to
try an Argo myself, hi.

vy 73,

Casey, KS7J

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:41 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Argonaut V - I did purchase


Casey,

I guess in my rambling way what I was trying to say.  There a many
differences in both the K2 and the Argo.  What is important to me may not be
important to you.  Both satisfy the needs and wants of many different
individuals.

I built my K2 to be used "portable" as much as possible.  That is why mine
has the internal battery and the internal ATU.  It works very well with just
an end fed wire and a counterpoise.  It also works very well from motel
balconies with the Buddi Pole!  That is were the comment about portable came
from.  That's the way I use it as often as I can.  But, you are right in
saying that the K2 makes a perfectly good base operation radio and mine is
used that way also.

As for piling on all the options, I believe you brought up the K2 twins (
amp and QRO tuner in the EC2 case and separate from the K2 ).  That is the
way mine will be this fall/winter, to busy now to build the amp and QRO
tuner.  That was not meant to be a head to head comparison, just a
clarification as to total cost for such a set-up.

The bottom line is, there is plenty of room for more that one QRP style
radio.  Either kit or commercially built.  I honestly believe we are very
lucky to have the choices that we have.  I also hope that those choices
continue to be there in the future.

As for the KDSP2 versus the KAF2.  If a person is considering the K2 and
trying to figure out which options to buy, I will always suggestion putting
the money that you would spend on the KAF2 towards the KDSP2.  There is a
world of difference and the KDSP2 will always win hands down.  When you
install it, it is almost like getting a completely new and different radio.

Now, as for the Argo V.  I will buy one just because of the differences
between the 2 radios.  To me the general coverage is as important as the
internal ATU for the K2 is to you.  That makes AM a necessary feature.  The
FM mode on HF is something that I would use like you said you used general
coverage, although I have played with it a little more.

It's all determined by what you want and how you operate.  Which one is the
best, depends totally on the individual.  And that discussion will go on
forever as will the biased opinions of both sides of the fence.

The bottom line, I would never try to talk anyone into buying one over the
other.  I just think both are good radios in their own right.  Each has many
different things to offer and brings a lot of capabilities to the table.
And each one will do things that the other will never do.  It's all in what
you are looking for.

Thanks for the input and your thoughts, I hope you enjoyed the exchange as
much as I did.

Mike - KC8WR






----- Original Message -----
From: "KS7J" <shack@tomochka.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:43 AM
Subject: RE: [TenTec] Argonaut V - I did purchase


> Mike,
>
> Why do you include the K2 ATU? Argo V doesn't have that. Why the battery
> pack, again, doesn't apply.
> Argo V doesn't have keyer memory buffers. Argo will not have 100W
available.
> No built-in ATU/dual ant. I don't understand the "portable"
> characterization, K2 makes a perfectly good base station radio. Yep,
doesn't
> have general coverage recieve. Had that on my TR7 for about 5 years. I
think
> I used it twice. Doubt I'd use FM or AM either.
>
> It's difficult to make an apples-to-apples comparison, impossible really,
> just different rigs, different options. If you look at my original post I
> was just asking if the comparisons had been made before and pointed out a
> few differences that made me slightly prefer the K2 over the Argo V (the
> dual ant/ATU is a biggie in my book). Then people piled on options that
the
> Argo V doesn't have and used the whole package as a comparison to an Argo
V
> base configuration! Seems like some folks felt threatened or something.
> Really funny actually.
>
> OK, I guess I got what I asked for, some strongly biased opinions and a
few
> good comparison points. Carry on folks! Time to put it to bed.
>
> 73,
>
> Casey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:54 PM

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