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[TenTec] Orion and RF Feedback... not the same as Pegasus or Jupiter and

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Subject: [TenTec] Orion and RF Feedback... not the same as Pegasus or Jupiter and RF Feedback!
From: Jerry Volpe <kg6tt@arrl.net>
Reply-to: kg6tt@arrl.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:53:08 -0700
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While grounding the mic connector on the Pegasus and adding ferrites may have helped the Pegasus owner, it is not the right solution when dealing with these problems on the Orion.... I am referring specifically to grounding the mic connector... a solution suggested earlier today. What is ground anyway?

The audio front ends of these two transceivers are completely different. The Orion uses a balanced audio design as opposed to the Pegasus more 'amateur traditional' unbalanced approach. The Pagasus combines the mic- and PTT return on the same pin. Indeed, most Ten-Tec microphones designed before the Orion had these two signals combined on pin 2. However, combining these two signals on the Orion can accidentally configure the Orion's circuitry to make it highly susceptible to localized RF, while if done per the Orion's manual, the Orion is incredibly insensitive to surrounding RF fields..

I wrote a long explanation of how may hams can totally eliminate the apparent RF problems they are experiencing with their Orions by merely paying proper attention to separating the PTT return ground (which goes to the Orion's mic connector casing) from the mic- return line. And by keeping the mic- return line OFF the shield. This is a must with low impedance microphones (like the Heil series) designed for balanced signal interconnects. The best design is where there are two twisted signal lines surrounded by an isolating shield. One of those twisted wires is the mic+ and the other is the mic-. These go to mic connector pins 1 and 2 respectively. Study the drawing and explanation on page 10 of the Orion user manual (Revision 3, February 2005). This wiring is not an option for the Orion 565. The shield around the mic cable must act as the PTT return with a separate wire (hopefully outside the shield) as the PTT+. Ten-Tec maintained the traditional four-pin mic connector on the Orion which made interfacing to a balanced audio input difficult. The Orion II makes this process much easier to accomplish with its 8-pin connector.

In my posting I went into pretty great detail of why this wiring is important and why symptoms of incorrect wiring are far more apparent using 2.x firmware. So if you want to understand the 'why' behind this check out that posting. Otherwise, just follow Ten-Tec's wiring diagram and you will be fine. DON'T assume your mic and its factory cable are correct. Both my Heil Studio One microphone and the supplied cable had problems that defeated the balance of the circuit. Once I corrected those problems and wired the plug to the Orion correctly all the problems that had me REGRETTING my Orion purchase went totally away.

It boggles my mind how many times the same information circulates on these reflectors. If you are new to reflectors, there is an Archive site where you can find probably all the answers to your questions... already asked and answered. The Archive for this reflector is:

http://lists.contesting.com/_tentec/

If you know about the Archive and aren't using it there is a wealth of information (and miss-information) to be found. In this Archive you will find the details of the solution I described above. I did not deduce this on my own (although I am an EE with years of audio, RF and digital experience), but rather I had to force myself to not be so lazy and look for the less obvious probabilities... As a result I found my solution (with the aid of Ten-Tec and Heil engineering support)... and I believe it is also the solution that so may are looking for regarding their RF distortion problems. I did my posting about one month ago I would think. The solution I detailed is especially true for those using 2.x firmware with the Orion 565 and any firmware with the Orion II, although the plug/jack wiring is different.

Good luck,
Jerry, KG6TT

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