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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Modern version of the Tec Tec Corsair - please Ten Tec!
From: Al Gulseth <wb5jnc@centurytel.net>
Reply-to: wb5jnc@centurytel.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 20:01:20 -0500
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It's interesting that this discussion should come up when it did - a local 
friend of mine who has owned several of the earlier Omni/Corsair series rigs 
said almost the same thing as this thread in a conversation last weekend.

I've for a long time "daydreamed" about the possibility of Corsair level 
performance (maybe without some "bells and whistles") in an analog rig, 
perhaps with a DDS VFO, of a size range from the Argosy/Argonaut II/Delta II 
format up to about the Delta. (Small enough to not take up too much limited 
operating desk space but not so small as to have a cramped front panel.)

Another couple of items for the "wish list" would be 1) user serviceable for 
reasonably technically proficient owners and 2) avoidance as much as possible 
of potentially "unobtanium" parts. This is based on my tendency of if I like 
a rig to keep it for a long time. Finally, 3) simple, straightforward, and 
easy to use. Give me a knob for a function, not a multi-layer menu.

Just my $0.02 worth....

73, Al

On Thu October 2 2014 7:56:52 am Barry N1EU wrote:
> (in an attempt to unhijack the thread)
>
> Steve, I think it's a great idea.  Alternate solution would be
> redesign/modenization of individual circuit boards that could be done as a
> community project for all those Corsairs out there.  The if/af board would
> be a prime target.
>
> 73, Barry N1EU
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
> > Most of the time, when I'm tuning the bands I have my eyes closed.
> > Otherwise I just put a brown paper bag over the Eagle and get on with it!
> > ;-)
> >
> > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Martin
> > Sole
> > (HS0ZED)
> > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:27 PM
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Modern version of the Tec Tec Corsair - please Ten
> > Tec!
> >
> > You're right indeed!
> >
> > Now 11 deg N and 100 deg E is a place where the band conditions rarely
> > exceed those of the 60's so my KWM2A still holds up well most of the time
> > though I wouldn't use it in a pile up for a new one or a contest, for
> > sure you then see it fall flat on it's 50's designed faceplate. As to the
> > filter,
> > again, no good in EU today but in the right environment it still has a
> > certain something. Hard to put the finger on.
> >
> > I never liked the look of the Eagle. Great performer though it no doubt
> > is. Put it in a bigger box with a Collins S line style front panel with
> > more knobs and I'd probably buy a dozen, heat not required!
> >
> > Martin, HS0ZED
> >
> > On 02/10/2014 14:42, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
> > > As nice as its audio was, the KWM-2 would not be very good with
> > > today's crowded bands.
> > > The famous "Collins mechanical filter" was not really very good by
> > > today's standards.
> > > A 4-pole crystal filter on 455 kHz is as good or better and of course
> > > you can buy 6 or 8 pole filters now.
> > > And the DSP filters on lower frequencies are even better, sharper, and
> > > have steeper skirts.
> > >
> > > As long as we're dreaming, I wish I had 1960's band conditions again!
> > >
> > > All things considered, it's hard to beat the Corsair with its
> > > combination of good audio and good crystal filters.
> > > Newer radios have better filters but worse audio.
> > >
> > > For my money, the best compromise is the Eagle.
> > >
> > > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Martin Sole
> > > (HS0ZED)
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 11:37 AM
> > > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Modern version of the Tec Tec Corsair - please
> > > Ten Tec!
> > >
> > > I've long liked the analogue radio sound. So far my all time fave,
> > > just for the audio, is a KWM2 with that big 6x4 speaker, something
> > > about that warm sound seems magical. Next up from my current radios
> > > would be my Omni V. Not sure how that might differ from the Corsair
> > > but whilst generally pleasant it's not in the KWM2 league. Then the
> > > Orion 565 and Elecraft K3, bit of a mixed bag these two as they are
> > > both very variable but I've not yet been able to recreate the analogue
> > > sound. I might need to experiment with amplifiers right at the point
> > > the signal becomes analogue. A god analogue audio amp with LTP input
> > > and complementary pair output in discrete silicon feeding a big
> > > speaker,
> >
> > might sound very different.
> >
> > > The TS940 had good audio too but for me about the same as the Omni V
> > >
> > > Martin, HS0ZED
> > >
> > > On 02/10/2014 12:03, Barry N1EU wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM, John Farler <k4avx1@windstream.net>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >>> I have a Corsair II with the DDS VFO, which works nicely.  I think
> > >>> it's a single conversion though.
> > >>
> > >> Normally it converts to 9MHz, then to 6.3MHz, and then back to 9MHz,
> > >> unless you bypass the 6.3MHz PBT i.f. which can be done fairly easily
> > >> but you lose PBT and narrow filters and don't gain much.
> > >>
> > >> I agree on the CAT comment.  I always dreamed of adding a CAT port to
> > >> the DDS cpu firmware.
> > >>
> > >> 73, Barry N1EU
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