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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Banana boat swing
From: "Tony Martin W4FOA" <w4foa@comcast.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:00:07 -0500
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K9WWT wrote:

There is the key to coin a phrase! A fist one can copy. Most times when I am QSOing someone with a bug with a bad swing I give up after the second round.

++Well I think the best way to avoid that is 1. Don't call him if he is CQing and/or 2. Just tell him, I'm sorry I can't copy your fist. In either case, I think either would be appropriate and understandable.

If you are going to use a bug at least put enough effort into your sending so the other party can copy it without racking his brain to figure out what you are sending. Spacing is the "key" to good sending.

++On the other side of this, I might ask why don't you put forth enough effort to learn to copy those fists? Yes, this is boastful, but I take pride in saying this "if you can send it, I can copy it". But to be honest, I spent 35 years doing this professionally and I have run into every kind of fist you can imagine. Including one situation where code was whistled into a microphone because the remote operator did not have a key. Believe it.

Besides a keyboard lets you multi-task! I can load up the buffer and go for a cup of coffe get some ice crean and maybe even say hi the the XYL all before it is time for the next over! And still feel the joy of a good hour long CW QSO.


++And this is precisely why I avoid computer generated CW QSOs. They are without a doubt the most boring QSOs one can find....it's kind of like talking back to a telephone recording. If I am called by a computer CW station, I am kind and exchange the necessary info but I can assure you, I am gone at the first chance I get.

Now for my second pet peeve. A QRP signal working someone running 100 watts or more. One party gets solid copy while the other must strain his ear to even get a report. When I go down to 1 watt and match the other guy's power, it is just amazing how short the QSO becomes.

++I think my thoughts in the 2nd paragraph apply equally as well here. I am also a QRP operator and I get a great deal of fun and pleasure out of pulling out the weak signals. Sometimes it is really quite interesting...a guy using a battery powered Tuna Tin loading up his mattress springs. It may not be much fun trying to copy him but I can guarantee you he got a big kick out of knowing he could be heard.

Just thought I would toss my 2 cents in.  73 K9WWT  dit dit !

++And that is what makes this such a great hobby....we all have our own ideas and preferences.

73 and catch you on the bands for a Computer to Cootie QSO  <grin>

Tony, W4FOA




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Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu> wrote:K4CFA wrote:

there is nothing wrong with a
distinctive fist that one can copy.

True, but for extremely weak signals,
please send as perfectly as you can. On
160 I often hear a number of guys sending
with "pregnant pauses" included, e.g.
W4D_R, N_0XA and W2_ JB come to mind. I
still recall seeing 3Y2GV's 160 log for the
first operation from Peter I Island. Instead
of N0XA, he had logged N0XAN since the pause
after the N confused him into thinking that
was the end of the call and caused him to
attach another N.

The reason for this is fairly simple.
When signals are extremely weak, syncopated
sending, pregnant pauses, etc. confuse the
brain which is struggling to copy signals
below the noise floor, probably in the midst
of huge static crashes. It doesn't need
any more distractions than it already has!

73, Bill W4ZV

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