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Re: [TenTec] OCF antennas evolution

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OCF antennas evolution
From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:28:06 -0500
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Then explain why a 4:1 balun is needed.  Heck I might learn something.

73
Bob K4tAX


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Bryce" <prosolar@sssnet.com>
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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OCF antennas evolution


I quite aware that open line is generally considered lost less feed line.

What threw me was the use of a 1:1 balun instead of a 4:1.

That's the head scratcher.

Mike wb8vge

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:32 PM, k6jek <k6jek@comcast.net> wrote:

Mike,

You're matching the antenna system, the antenna and the feed line. You just can't separate the two. When the antenna impedance at a particular frequency is different from the feed line characteristic impedance, the impedance on the line is different every place on the line. You're matching whatever it happens to be at the shack end of the feed line.

Losses are the reason to put the balun near the station instead of near the antenna. Open wire line has much lower losses than coax under conditions of very high SWR. That's the reason we put up with the stuff which is a royal pain in the arse, just so we can have a ridiculous SWR and not care about it. And very high SWR is exactly what we have at almost all frequencies when using a doublet as a multi-band antenna. The only reason we can get away with such a thing is the low loss of open wire line. So you want to run that stuff as far as you can before switching to coax. As long as you can is ideally right into a balanced tuner, no balun at all.

Jon


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