Does the Orion have more gain than the FT-1000? If the Orion has 20 dB more
gain then I would expect to measure 20 dB more noise. Factually listening
is a very poor measurement in this situation. Bandwidth is also a factor.
I know folks in the past that are noted to crank everything to the max and
proclaim "boy that receiver is sure noisy".
73
Bob, K4TAX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chortek Robert L" <robert.chortek@berliner.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ocean noise
> No,
>
> I have heard you need to reduce the gain but when you put both rigs side
> by side with no antenna the Orion has much moee internal noise. I think
> it is just a fact of life.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> 73
>
> Bob. AA6VB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RM [mailto:royalct@inr.net]
> Sent: Sat Feb 11 10:31:26 2006
> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ocean noise
>
> Any chance the Noise Reduction (NR) is active?
>
>
> Ron, NU1U
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Chortek, Robert L
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 13:19
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ocean noise
>
> I have the same issue. Much more noise than my FT1000D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Tow [mailto:ttow1@charter.net]
> Sent: Sat Feb 11 09:30:15 2006
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] Ocean noise
>
> Turning down the rf gain was the first thing I tried. Down to
> 50-60%..still
> a LOT more noise than should be and much more than the MK 5. I still
> suspect
> it is some setting but I have not had the time to mess with it. Probably
> won't for several days so after my next bout with it, if I find it I will
> report. To those who requested the updates, I will get to those also. 73,
> Tommy WD4K
>
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> 1. Re: Now UPS Strikes Again (Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX)
> 2. Re: Ten Tec User Net Activity (John Nason / NA9U)
> 3. Re: Now UPS Strikes Again (Lew)
> 4. hearing the ocean (Bill Tippett)
> 5. WTB- Accessories for 540 (Danny Shaver)
> 6. Re: Ten Tec User Net Activity (Martin, AA6E)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:49:42 -0600
> From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX <RMcGraw@Blomand.Net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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> Yes, but how does one protect from puncture through two boxes, the outside
> one & inside one, puncture through two layers of 2" thick rigid foam and
> thus leaving dents 1/4" deep and scratches on the equipment?
>
> No drop involved.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lew" <ljl160@verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
>
>
>>I learned that packing for UPS must withstand a good 6 foot drop at
>>minimum
>> I live near a main UPS drop off and I've seen just from the counter to
>> the
>> back room what happens. DHL is my new mode of shipping- its been very
>> good
>> so far. K1NDV
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX
>> Date: 02/10/06 23:11:52
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
>>
>> UPS is an absolute pain in the behind company to do business with. I too
>> received a package via UPS in October. It was a "drop and run" job thus
>> no
>> signature. Damaged to such extent the outside of the box was torn, the
>> inside packing was damaged, the inside box was torn and the inside
>> packing
>> damaged as well as the radio equipment. Filed a claim with UPS, then
>> they
>> said it had to go back through the shipping agent and they'd have to make
>> a
>> claim. Then they said the damage was due to inadequate packing. Come on
>> folks, it doesn't take a high school drop-out to figure that one out.
>> Well
>> what would one expect? I guess if it were in a iron box it might have
>> made
>> it. Oh well the story continues.
>>
>> Well all was done as they requested. Pictures made and sent as
>> requested.
>> Package delivered to the local UPS office as requested. On and On and On
>> and On. Finally, I figured that their tactic was to stall and stall and
>> stall and perhaps I'd just go away. Well I didn't. I persisted in being
>> a
>> thorn in their behind day after day after day. Finally, after 4 months I
>> got a check but only after they got a letter from my attorney and then a
>> summons to appear in local court.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 06:27:13 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Nason / NA9U <na9u@arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten Tec User Net Activity
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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> I have been hearing the net about 2:00 PM Central time
> on or about 7.251. Much QRM from broadcasters. I
> just got my O2 so I will be interested in seeing how
> all the filtering will handle the carriers.
>
> 73,
> John NA9U
>
> --- David Hammond <dhhdeh@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Could someone please post the latest
>> date/time/frequency info on any Ten Tec User Net
>> Activity?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Best 73 de N1LQ-Dave
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:32:48 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
> From: "Lew" <ljl160@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
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>
> The puncture wounds are new to me! Probably fork lift damage maybe??? I
> have even double boxed and used some indoor -outdoor carpet along with
> everything else however it adds weight to the shipping cost. I think that
> DHL drivers have a vested interest in making things arrive in good
> shape-so
> I hear. I shipped out a dozen or so items since last summer via DHL and it
> worked for me. They were fast and cheaper than most. I even sent a large
> cubical quad out west and it arrived in good shape. The package was 13 ft
> long x 1 ft diam and about 50 lbs! 73 Lew/KlNDV
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX
> Date: 02/11/06 09:06:12
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
>
> Yes, but how does one protect from puncture through two boxes, the outside
> one & inside one, puncture through two layers of 2" thick rigid foam and
> thus leaving dents 1/4" deep and scratches on the equipment?
>
> No drop involved.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lew" <ljl160@verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
>
>
>>I learned that packing for UPS must withstand a good 6 foot drop at
>>minimum
>> I live near a main UPS drop off and I've seen just from the counter to
>> the
>> back room what happens. DHL is my new mode of shipping- its been very
>> good
>> so far. K1NDV
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX
>> Date: 02/10/06 23:11:52
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
>>
>> UPS is an absolute pain in the behind company to do business with. I too
>> received a package via UPS in October. It was a "drop and run" job thus
>> no
>> signature. Damaged to such extent the outside of the box was torn, the
>> inside packing was damaged, the inside box was torn and the inside
>> packing
>> damaged as well as the radio equipment. Filed a claim with UPS, then
>> they
>> said it had to go back through the shipping agent and they'd have to make
>> a
>> claim. Then they said the damage was due to inadequate packing. Come on
>> folks, it doesn't take a high school drop-out to figure that one out.
>> Well
>> what would one expect? I guess if it were in a iron box it might have
>> made
>> it. Oh well the story continues.
>>
>> Well all was done as they requested. Pictures made and sent as
>> requested.
>> Package delivered to the local UPS office as requested. On and On and On
>> and On. Finally, I figured that their tactic was to stall and stall and
>> stall and perhaps I'd just go away. Well I didn't. I persisted in being
>> a
>> thorn in their behind day after day after day. Finally, after 4 months I
>> got a check but only after they got a letter from my attorney and then a
>> summons to appear in local court.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:42:06 -0500
> From: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
> Subject: [TenTec] hearing the ocean
> To: tentec@contesting.com
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> WD4K wrote:
>
> >not including my trip to the ocean when I turn it on. :)
>
> Before you throw it in the ocean, try
> turning RF Gain down until the noise drops.
> This is exactly the point I was making before
> about users not setting RF Gain correctly and
> complaining "My Orion is noisy". :-)
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:19:11 -0600
> From: "Danny Shaver" <n5nbk@nortexinfo.net>
> Subject: [TenTec] WTB- Accessories for 540
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <000e01c62f1e$83212670$037dfea9@DannyShaver>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
> I am still looking for accessories for my 540 (triton IV). I am primarily
> looking for the digital readout and the 160 meter converter, but would
> consider complete stations, or even a 544. Must be in good condition
> electrically and cosmetically.
>
> Thanks- Danny
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:48:25 -0500
> From: "Martin, AA6E" <martin.ewing@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten Tec User Net Activity
> To: na9u@arrl.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> <tentec@contesting.com>
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> I checked in once. Good news, bad news. Good: the Orion can pull
> weak ham sigs out from between the broadcasters. Bad: It's still
> hard to get through on 100W -- no fun on the East Coast! Why can't
> there be a better time / freq? Mornings on 40 or evenings on 80 seem
> like a better deal.
>
> 73 Martin AA6E (in CT)
>
> On 2/11/06, John Nason / NA9U <na9u@arrl.net> wrote:
>> I have been hearing the net about 2:00 PM Central time
>> on or about 7.251. Much QRM from broadcasters. I
>> just got my O2 so I will be interested in seeing how
>> all the filtering will handle the carriers.
>>
>> 73,
>> John NA9U
>>
>
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