Yep Don
I did include Yemen as needed since DXCC rejected my 7O1YGF cards.
So got to get um again.
Thanks for doing the survey it seems that most of us serious RTTY dxers need
pretty much the same ones. GL to all and am looking forward to adding KH7K
Kure Island to my collection.
John W4DJ
>From: "Don Hill AA5AU" <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
>To: "'RTTY'" <rtty@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [RTTY] What is DXCC RTTY? (Re: Big Shakeup on the Top Ten
>Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:00:54 -0500
>
>It's not easy to find, but under the FAQ for DXCC on the ARRL website it
>says:
>
>"Q: There are other modes not recognized by DXCC. How do they apply?
>
>A: Modes such as PSK-31, G-Tor, Pactor, JT44 etc are digital and count for
>DXCC
>as RTTY. SSTV and other voice modes count as Phone for DXCC."
>
>But it's an interesting question that Ed poses and you have to look at the
>2002
>list for answers.
>
>Here is the top ten (actually included 12 entities) in 2002:
>
>1 BS7 Scarborough Reef
>2 VU Andaman & Nicobar Is.
>3 3C0 Annobon I.
>4 VK0 Macquarie I.
>5 7O Yemen
>5 FT5X Kerguelen Is.
>7 VU Lakshadweep Is.
>8 3Y Bouvet
>9 FT5W Crozet I.
>10 HK0 Malpelo I.
>10 PP0-PY0S St. Peter & St. Paul Rocks
>10 ST Sudan
>
>Of those countries, only 3C0, FT5X, PY0S & ST were active on RTTY since the
>last
>survey and none of those are in the top ten so far this year despite only
>limited RTTY action from 3C0 (currently at #15). VU4 Andaman & Nicobar and
>VK0
>Macquarie had limited PSK action since the 2002 survey and both remain in
>the
>top ten. As I recall, VU7 was active after VU4 in the past on RTTY, so had
>PSK
>not been operated from VU4, I'd have to say it would #2 and VU7 #3.
>
>Macquarie was in the #4 spot in 2002 and is currently tied for 10th today.
>I
>don't know when the last Macquarie or official 7O operations took place.
>The
>2002 results suggest that possibly VK0 Macquarie took place before the last
>official Yemen RTTY operation. So without the limited recent Macquarie PSK
>operation, a good guess would place it at #4 as it was in 2002. The
>biggest
>question is Yemen. I can tell which operators are using the 7O1YGF
>operation as
>"good" in their eyes and have left them off their needs list. It's not a
>big
>deal, but without anyone counting the 7O1YGF operation (I left it up to
>each
>individual whether they included it or not), I'd have to guess it would be
>number #5 today, but again it's just a guess.
>
>The bottom line is that the top ten more than likely would have still
>included
>the entities that are there today (except maybe not 3Y Peter I) had PSK not
>been
>operated from VK0 Macquarie and VU4 Andaman & Nicobar. It's all
>speculation,
>but fun stuff to play with. Here is the list today and where I think they
>would
>be if PSK had not been operated from VU4 and VK0.
>
>1 BS7 Scarborough Reef 100.0%, would be #1 regardless.
>2 VU Lakshadweep Is. 89.4%, probably would have been #3 without VU4 PSK
>3 7O Yemen 84.7%, probably would have been #5 without VU4 & VK0 PSK
>4 3Y Bouvet 78.2%, probably would have been #6 with VU4 & VK0 PSK
>5 HK0 Malpelo I. 76.5%, probably would have been #7 with VU4 & VK0 PSK
>6 VU Andaman & Nicobar Is. 74.7%, probably would have been #2 without
>recent
>VU4NRO PSK operation
>7 FT5W Crozet I. 74.1%, probably would have been #8 with VU4 & VK0 PSK
>7 KP5 Desecheo I. 74.1%, probably would have been #9 with VU4 & VK0 PSK
>9 KP1 Navassa I. 72.4%, probably would have been #10 with VU4 & VK0 PSK
>10 3Y Peter I Is. 71.2%, probably would have been #11 with VU4 & VK0 PSK
>10 VK0 Macquarie I 71.2%, probably would have been #4 without recent VK0MT
>PSK
>operation
>
>There is a lot of interesting tidbits coming from the survey and I'm not
>going
>to reveal all of them now, but here's one...
>
>Did you know that Ducie Island is more rare than Pitcairn (so far) on RTTY?
>
>And by the way, 3 of the top 10 today are populated - VU4, VU7 & 7O. Not
>sure
>what happened to the well advertised HK0 Malpelo trip that was to happen
>this
>year. I sure could use that one! Maybe the VU4 operation might have
>opened the
>door for VU7?
>
>More to come.
>
>73, Don AA5AU
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rtty-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On
>Behalf
>Of Peter Laws
>Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:11 PM
>To: RTTY
>Subject: [RTTY] What is DXCC RTTY? (Re: Big Shakeup on the Top Ten
>
>On 8/23/05, Ed Magnuson <w1mag@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>
> > just one oddball thought: for those of us who prefer our RTTY awards
> > to be pure, I wonder if the order of the needed would change at all if
> > the entities that have appeared in recent years only on PSK were not
> > counted?
> >
>
>I see no explicit mention of PSK31 or any of the newer modes. From
>http://www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc/rules.html#si :
>
>"d) RTTY: Contacts must be made using radioteletype since November
>15, 1945. (Baudot, ASCII, AMTOR and packet count as RTTY.) Confirmations
>for
>cross-mode contacts for this award must be dated September 30, 1981, or
>earlier."
>
>
>--
>Peter Laws | N5UWY/9 | plaws0 gmail
>
>'They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary
>safety
>deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin
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