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Subject: [RTTY] Credit for P5 RTTY
From: bernie@dailydx.com (Bernie McClenny)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:12:43 -0400 (EDT)
My understanding is that the paper work that was submitted only 
mentioned SSB.  It's a long story but I really beleif eventually all 
QSOs will count for DXCC.  Ed needs to come up with something that 
states that RTTY is OK.  I thought I saw something from KK5DO that the 
P5 authorities told Ed to come back in 6 months.  That was a month or 
so ago.  The mere fact that he is on RTTY says that the authorities 
are OK with it.  Work him and worry later (WFWL).  Ed has supplied the 
authorities in Pyongyang with equipment/software to copy RTTY.  We all 
need to be patient!

73
Bernie, W3UR

> Don, I agree 100% with what the ARRL DXCC rules state. However, 
there is no
> mention of approval required of each amateur mode. As it reads, rule 
7, "Any
> Amateur Radio operation, etc., etc.,". This has the same thinking as 
the
> 9U5CW op where they knew months in advance that the operation was 
not going
> to be accepted for DXCC as the operators had not obtained permission 
from an
> ARRL recognized official. The operation was allowed to continue 
until long
> after completion before the DXCC community was notified and after 
who knows
> how much $$$$ was sent to the the QSL Manager. oh well. Its the only 
game in
> town, so guess we play by their rules...73 de
> Wayne k7wm@i10net.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Hill AA5AU" <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
> To: "RTTY Reflector" <rtty@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Credit for P5 RTTY
> 
> 
> > This true.  Only SSB contacts are valid for DXCC.  I don't think 
there
> > has been any definitive reasons given why only SSB contacts are 
valid
> > other than what was released by the ARRL as follows:
> >
> > "Since early November 2001, Mr. Edisher (Ed) Giorgadze, 4L4FN, a 
Georgian
> citizen employed by the United Nations World Food Program,
> > has been active as P5/4L4FN in Pyongyang, DPRK.
> >
> > DXCC Rule 7 states "Any Amateur Radio operation should take place 
only
> with the complete approval and understanding of appropriate
> > administration officials." The rule continues, "In any case, 
credit will
> be given for contacts where adequate evidence of
> > authorization by appropriate authorities exists." The ARRL has now
> received adequate evidence that the operation by
> >
> > Mr. Giorgadze is being conducted with the knowledge and approval of
> telecommunications officials in Pyongyang. At the present time,
> > this approval is limited to SSB operation.
> >
> > The ARRL Awards Committee has met and concurred that the operation 
should
> be accredited. As a result, we are pleased to announce
> > that effective immediately, the DXCC Branch will accept SSB 
contacts with
> P5/4L4FN for DXCC credit. Contacts with P5/4L4FN dating
> > back to early November, 2001 will count for this Entity."
> >
> > 73, Don AA5AU
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Floyd Sense" <sentek@sprintmail.com>
> > To: "RTTY Reflector" <rtty@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 5:18 PM
> > Subject: [RTTY] Credit for P5 RTTY
> >
> >
> > > Just got my P5 QSL card today for a recent RTTY contact, only to 
read in
> a
> > > magazine a couple of hours later that the ARRL is not approving 
RTTY
> > > contacts with P5/4L4FN for DXCC credit.  Is that true, and if 
so, why
> not?
> > >
> > > K8AC
> > > Floyd Sense in Angier, NC
> > >
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Bernie McClenny, W3UR

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