Robert you are right.
The place to get the run station's call is off his CQ. Not off the
exchange.
73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chudek - K0RC
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:26 PM
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] (no subject)
"Think about it.
I am doing S/P tuning across his frequency and I see:
k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx"
When I am in S&P and I come across this exchange, all I know is the
station transmitting is not K1XX. The exchange is configured for the
benefit of two stations trying to make a QSO as efficiently as possible.
It is not configured to give a S&P station some advantage.
"Who is the calling station?"
As a S&P station, you will just have to wait and see.
"Who is the station running the frequency?
As a S&P station, you will just have to wait and see.
"So who should I call?"
As a S&P station, you will just have to wait and see.
"Are you saying I should just send out my call without knowing who I am
trying to contact."
Absolutely NOT! You should never call blind! As a S&P station, you will just
have to wait and see.
"How about this:
k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx de w6wrt"
That's just a waste of the transmitting stations time (and the receiving
station as well).
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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On 1/16/2012 12:57 PM, Richard Cariello wrote:
> Bob,
> That's what makes this a horse race. As the person who is running the
> frequency the more time he gets his call out the better will be his rate.
>
> Think about it.
> I am doing S/P tuning across his frequency and I see:
> k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx
>
> Who is the calling station?
> Who is the station running the frequency?
> So who should I call?
> Are you saying I should just send out my call without knowing who I am
> trying to contact. I see this allot but that station never gets called
> because he has already been worked, just adding QRM to the frequency.
>
> You come across this type of operation allot during SSB contests. The
> station will run signing as "QRZ". After a while I simply call the station
> as "QRZ" but at least the next time I tune across this station I can at
> least ID his voice.
>
> How about this:
> k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx de w6wrt
>
> As the station doing S/P this would let me see who is running the
> frequency and give the station he is working the second chance to know it
> is his report. Now I will know as the S/P station if I need him or not.
>
> Rich AA2MF
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
>
>> He is not signing as the other station. The other station already knows
>> he is working W6WRT. It's a waste of time sending W6WRT again.
>>
>> Bill also knows his call sign, so there's no benefit for him seeing it
>> again either.
>>
>> There is a benefit. That is when the first K1XX gets covered up by "tail
>> enders" and "long callers". Nobody knows who the report is being sent to
>> (other than W6WRT). Having the call sign on the end ensures the intended
>> station knows he is being worked.
>>
>> I lost count of the number of times I received "4:XC-ALU4C 599 CA CA BK"
>> on my screen. Then I simply WAIT until the station resends his report
>> and I can tell whether he is working me or someone else.
>>
>> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> On 1/16/2012 8:13 AM, Richard Cariello wrote:
>>> Bill W6WRT,
>>> I am just getting back into RTTY myself and greatly enjoying the mode.
>>>
>>> I am wondering why you are signing as the other station:
>>>
>>> ME: K1XX 599<EXCH> <EXCH> K1XX
>>>
>>> I would use:
>>>
>>> ME: k1xx 599<exch> <exch> w6wrt (your callsign)
>>>
>>> If conditions are bad then double the callsigns as needed to make the
>>> QSO.
>>>
>>> Rich AA2MF
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Duane Budd wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill said:
>>>>
>>>> "When I'm running, I want to verify two things from the calling
>>>> station:
>>>>
>>>> 1. He's working me and not another station on the frequency that I
>>>> can't
>>>> hear.
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> 2. That he has my callsign correct.
>>>>
>>>> Unless the calling station sends my call at some point, how would I
>>>> verify
>>>> the above?
>>>>
>>>> Here's how I like it when I'm running:
>>>>
>>>> ME: CQ TEST W6WRT W6WRT CQ
>>>> HIM: K1XX K1XX K1XX (or only twice if condx good, never just once)
>>>> ME: K1XX 599<EXCH> <EXCH> K1XX
>>>> HIM: W6WRT 599<EXCH> <EXCH> K1XX
>>>> ME: K1XX TU W6WRT CQ
>>>>
>>>> There is some redundancy in the above, but during a busy contest when
>>>> often
>>>> there are several stations on the same frequency, some redundancy is a
>>>> necessity, IMO. Otherwise you are likely to log the wrong station.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Bill W6WRT"
>>>>
>>>> And that is exactly the way I do it and for the same reasons.
>>>>
>>>> While I am not a pro like AA5AU, I enjoy RTTY contesting and it has
>>>> become
>>>> my favorite operating joy...
>>>>
>>>> Budd, W5BEN
>>>> dcbudd@embarqmail.com
>>>> Johnson City, TN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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