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Re: [RTTY] ARES E-Letter for July 16, 2014

To: "rtty@contesting.com" <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARES E-Letter for July 16, 2014
From: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:57:10 +0000
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Disclaimer: Not a fan of Winlink nor a proponent of RM-11708; in fact, the 
opposite.

You're wandering off into an intellectual swamp where virtually all amateur 
radio communications are noncompliant. Message traffic not in support of a 
declared emergency.  Phone patches (OK, almost no one does those anymore).  
Every net on 80 meters every night of the week. If you're going to use a 
content yardstick and a strict interpretation of part 97, virtually all current 
amateur activity can be conducted via alternate and readily available 
technologies. Be careful what you wish for.

 The criticism of "enhanced" Winlink and RM-11708 in general is best distilled 
down to the technical and operational incompatibilities with placement in the 
spectrum. Wide bandwidth modes belong together, not grouped together with 
"similar" modulation modes.

Al
AB2ZY

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry Gauthier 
(K8UT)
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:33 PM
To: Ron Kolarik; Joe Subich, W4TV; rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARES E-Letter for July 16, 2014

>> We connect with and reassure our relatives and friends ashore that we 
>> are safe and are enjoying ourselves and I share a daily journal of 
>> our experiences with about 500 people.

Ron, based on the sentence above, I would differentiate a parade or bike event 
in which Amateur Radio provides H&W (Health and Welfare) support, from an 
activity for which Amateur Radio is considered the free wireless Internet 
Service Provider. One is legal under part 97; the other is not.

-larry (K8UT)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Kolarik
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:09 PM
To: Joe Subich, W4TV ; rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARES E-Letter for July 16, 2014

Joe the event is no different than an annual parade or bike race with amateur 
radio support and since the US Power Squadron is one of the served agencies for 
ARES it's nothing to get excited about.
On the other hand, why is a thank you letter to the Winlink team even in there?

Ron
K0IDT


On 7/17/2014 10:38 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> Since the e-letter does not assert copyright and it is publicly 
> distributed, I *will* copy the specified article here as being of 
> general interest:
>
>> Open Letter to the Winlink Team: Thanks from a Mariner
>>
>> I wanted to drop the Winlink managers and operators a sincere note of 
>> thanks and gratitude for volunteering the use of your amateur radio 
>> equipment on the Winlink system. I am on a 45-foot sailboat nearly
>> 1,000 miles offshore sailing in the Victoria-to-Maui race; one of 14 
>> boats this year. It is our seventh day at sea. I am also the 
>> communications vessel for the fleet. We, and I'm sure a few other 
>> boats in our fleet with amateur operators have been connecting to 
>> your stations to access race vessel position info and vital wind and 
>> weather predictions. We have also had need to relay medical advice 
>> related to an injury on another boat and assist with another boat 
>> that had a catastrophic steering issue and is limping into San 
>> Francisco. I cannot convey enough thanks for the comfort of hearing 
>> the Pactor modem connect to each of you with a clear strong signal.
>> We connect with and reassure our relatives and friends ashore that we 
>> are safe and are enjoying ourselves and I share a daily journal of 
>> our experiences with about 500 people. If you wish to follow our 
>> daily journal, send an email to Dan Pearce at frigidkid@gmail.com.
>> Again, many thanks from everyone aboard! -- Paul Michael, KD7JST, 
>> Navigator, s/v Family Affair
>
> This is simply another case of commercial interests subverting amateur 
> radio for commercial purposes (coordination and management of a race).
> All of the communication for this commercial endeavor could have been 
> handled as effectively via maritime or satellite channels and, as 
> such, this regularly scheduled event has no business QRMing legitimate 
> ham activities.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2014-07-17 10:06 AM, Ben Antanaitis - WB2RHM wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> To avoid copyright violation, I will only post this reference to 
>> today's "The ARES E-Letter for July 16, 2014",
>>
>> See Item titled: "Open Letter to the Winlink Team: Thanks from a 
>> Mariner".
>>
>> 73,  Ben - WB2RHM
>>
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