Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com> writes:
> On 10/18/2025 8:00 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> That appears to lack certification to the UL standard for ebike
>> chargers.
>
> UL addresses ONLY electrical SAFETY. Nearly all US Electrical Codes,
> which carry the force of law, require certification by UL or an
> alternative agency, ETL. When we make an insurance claim, the presence
> of equipment without certification will likely cause it to be
> rejected.
For panels, receptacles, wiring, and hard-wired car chargers, etc. that
first part seems accurate.
The bit about insurance seems like it might be true and it might be FUD.
Not about RFI, but I'd be interested in seeing actual data about this.
Does the NEC prohibit bringing a non-listed device into a home and
plugging it in? Something like a cellphone charger? If so I'd like to
see a specific reference.
(Personally, I try hard to avoid any non-listed devices, plug in or
not.)
And yes, I understand that UL standards and listing by a NRTL addresses
safety and not RFI. I was making the safety point. I also believe that
devices that are listed for safety are more likely to have been designed
reasonably by a responsiblle company, which is more likely to believe
that they should also comply with emissions rules. Not a guarantee, but
"things that should be listed but aren't are likely junk and should be
avoided for multiple reasons."
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