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Re: [RFI] Noise from Generac Solar controllers?

To: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Noise from Generac Solar controllers?
From: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 20:12:32 +0000
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Actually, there are rules that govern solar and so far, only Solar Edge, 
General and LG have generated complaints to ARRL and/or FCC.

Ed, W1RFI



-----Original Message-----
From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com> On Behalf Of David 
Eckhardt
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 3:09 PM
To: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Noise from Generac Solar controllers?

You are so correct, Kim!!!

Dave - WØLEV

On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 7:06 PM Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I mean, their honest if disingenuous. It meets all *existing* FCC refs.
> They fail to state there aren’t any. I’ve come to the conclusion that 
> home solar and amateur radio are mutually exclusive.
>
> Kim Elmore N5OP
>
> "People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long 
> as the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith
>
> On Dec 16, 2021, at 12:46 PM, David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> If someone on this lest knows of the FCC regulation(s) addressing the 
> solar industry, please let us all know.  To my knowledge, so far, 
> there is nothing addressing the solar industry.  ARRL, is there 
> anything addressing this RFI source?
>
> Dave - WØLEV
>
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 6:44 PM David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> QUOTE:  " For what it's worth, I contacted Generac on N1UK's behalf 
> and
>
> the gist
>
> of the conversation was that their equipment meets all FCC 
> requirements
>
> which is the standard answer you'll get from most if not all solar
>
> equipment manufacturers. I'm sure you'll get the same answer if you 
> ask
>
> your Generac salesmen about RFI."
>
>
> This is BS as the FCC has no specific regulations for the whole solar
>
> industry.
>
>
> Dave - WØLEV
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 6:31 AM Tony <73guddx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ken:
>
>
> I know of several hams who are experiencing RFI caused by Generac home
>
> solar. In each case, the interference turned out to be emanating from 
> a
>
> neighbors installation. In one particular case, Mark N1UK, experienced
>
> RFI from a neighbors system located 400 feet from his home. His 
> neighbor
>
> had the system installed mid-summer I believe and I don't know if the
>
> issue was resolved. You can find Mark's contact info on QRZ.
>
>
> Most home solar systems share like-components so they all have the
>
> potential to cause RFI regardless of the brand. At least one company
>
> specifically warns against installing solar panel systems near ham 
> radio
>
> installations and that's SolarEdge. The quote below was taken from a
>
> SolarEdge document titled:  "Installing a SolarEdge System near an
>
> Amateur Radio System".
>
>
> It says in part:
>
>
> "/due to the afore-mentioned factors and to the higher sensitivity and
>
> physical layout of HAM radio equipment, we have seen in the past
>
> installations where the noise level measured by HAM radio operators 
> was
>
> above the urban ambient noise especially, in the 6M band and lower
>
> frequencies, while having a much lower noise level on the 2M band.
>
> *Therefore we do not recommend the installation of SolarEdge systems 
> at
>
> sites where HAM radio equipment is installed. *
>
> /
>
> /
>
> /
>
> For what it's worth, I contacted Generac on N1UK's behalf and the gist
>
> of the conversation was that their equipment meets all FCC 
> requirements
>
> which is the standard answer you'll get from most if not all solar
>
> equipment manufacturers. I'm sure you'll get the same answer if you 
> ask
>
> your Generac salesmen about RFI.
>
>
> Best of luck,
>
>
> Tony -K2MO/
>
> /
>
> /
>
> /
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/16/2021 12:06 AM, Ken Bandy, KJ9B wrote:
>
> Hi all.  I am contemplating having a “PowerHome Solar” power system
>
> installed at my house, and am a little concerned about possible RF 
> noise
>
> generation from the system.  This system uses a Generac controller.
>
> Does
>
> anyone have any experience with a system using a Generac controller?  
> I
>
> know
>
> early inverters were often RF noisy, but I’m hoping that the later
>
> models
>
> have addressed noise generation.
>
>
> Any input is appreciated.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Ken, KJ9B
>
>
>
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