The Bluewire box, that Ray Hatch has been working on, apparently has
Karlnets support. Pricing would be key but at $30...we are getting closer
to making me want to use Karlnet more instead of less.
-bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Norm Young" <npyoung@applegatebroadband.net>
To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Re: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
> How about a version of the SR-4000 that ran on the WET11 (a Ubicom?
> processor), and perhaps others (more Ubicom processor-based devices?) for
> right around $30? That would, for instance, put the cost of my CPE
> installation right around $300. This would be helpful in selling the
> service (and KN licenses).
>
> If the WET11 could be bought in quantity for less than $100, so much the
> better.
>
> I bought into KN with the idea that I would have the flexibility to surf
the
> hardware economies of scale created by 802.11b deployment. Unfortunately,
> it has been as good a wave as I originally thought it would be, in part
> because the only off the shelf CPE choice (for anyone that wanted a
> stand-alone network interface radio/SBC) has turned out to be the RG-1100,
> and only the RG-1100. A pretty nice piece of hardware from a reliability
> standpoint, it just hasn't declined in price much, I suspect, because
those
> selling it know that it's part of a required piece for outdoor wireless
> networks. Its not, unfortunately, like we can select a Dlink, or Linksys
AP
> and substitute it in. (And maybe we don't want to...again, the
reliability
> of the RG can not be underrated.)
>
> Doug, is it possible for KN to aggregate the purchases of the RG to get a
> price on just the bare board? I've heard some talk about really high
> numbers in order to get some consideration for an order right from the
> factory.
>
> Norm
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Hrbek" <bhrbek@jagwireless.com>
> To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Re: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
>
>
> > Well, what I was talking about was a radio in a NEMA box w/ karlnet for
> > around $200. If you could get it down lower...I think you would be the
> envy
> > of all.
> >
> > But, I'm sure you already know this.
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Support" <support@karlnet.com>
> > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:04 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Re: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
> >
> >
> > > Who says were not looking at WET11? :)
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:50 PM
> > > > To: Orinoco@part-15.org; karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Subject: [Karlnet] Re: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm with ya Norm. The WET11 is just lurking in the back of my mind
> and
> > > > killing me. I think Karlnet could really clean-up if they had a
> better
> > > > solution of everything in one and at a decent (**hack**
> > > > affordable) price.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've even been looking at the trango stuff. They just lowered
> > > > their prices.
> > > > $495 for the 3-mile SU from trango and it's 8MB!!! with polling
> > > > and cir/mir
> > > > settings...all kinds of goodies with the standard PoE and all.
> > > > only 3 miles
> > > > though :( The 10-mile su is a big bigger and I think it was 595.
> > > >
> > > > -Bob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Norm Young" <npyoung@applegator.org>
> > > > To: <Orinoco@part-15.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:06 PM
> > > > Subject: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I'm charging $400 for a KN CPE installation, and while I had an
> > initial
> > > > > burst of signups (the hard core enthusiasts), that has now
> > > > faded away. I
> > > > > am, however, gettting calls from people that say they'd love to
have
> > our
> > > > > service, they just can't swallow that $400 install. Of that $400,
> the
> > > > > biggest elements are; 1- $135 for the RG-1100, 2-$70 for the
> > > > 24dB antenna
> > > > > (all our shots are over 5 mi.), and $65 for KN SOHO (SR-4000).
> > > > Recently,
> > > > > by getting pigtails from Allcom, and some reductions in cost on
> > > > some other
> > > > > elements, I've been able to get my cost for equipment for a
typical
> > > > install
> > > > > down in the $350 region. I'd like to see it go further. My goal
> is
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > able to offer a $299 install. On another mailist, a member has
been
> > > > saying
> > > > > that he's designing a board to replace the RG-1100 for around $80
> > > > > (Bluewire).
> > > > >
> > > > > It would be nice if KN would reduce their price on the
> > > > SR-4000, realizing
> > > > > that at least in my case, I'm using it to go after resi/SOHO
> > > > clients that
> > > > > are quite price sensitative. Since the product is software that
is
> > > > > electronically delivered, say, a halving of the price would, in my
> > > > opinion,
> > > > > lead to more than a doubling in demand, and since there is no
> > > > incremental
> > > > > cost to doing this, the result would be more profit for KN.
> > > > Consider the
> > > > > alternatives. More and more WISPs are looking at complete
> > > > solutions like
> > > > > Motorola's Canopy system with a CPE cost of $515 in one-off
prices.
> > On
> > > > the
> > > > > low-end, there seem to be a number of WISPs using Starlink or
other
> AP
> > > > > software, and the Linksys WET11 ($105) in a plain-jane 802.11b
> > network.
> > > > > (total 802.11b CPE cost for us: $260)
> > > > >
> > > > > My choice is to sit here, wait for Verizon to come in with DSL
> > > > (and a free
> > > > > CPE) while waiting for KN CPE prices to decline, or take action,
and
> > go
> > > > with
> > > > > 802.11b right now, and get the customers while the getting is
good.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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