>Unfortunately by the time you have tried to enlighten any of these 
groups you have probably lost 50 Q's.
Unless, of course, you consider a good frequency fight to be an art 
form in it's own right...  I have never been run off a frequency in a 
contest... I have moved off when there was propagation change and an 
existing conversation became audible... I have moved when asked, 
politely, by a scheduled net...  But, I have never been run off by 
someone who claims he owns the frequency...  And even Riley is bound by 
the rules...
denny
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