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Re: [CQ-Contest] World Wide Digi DX Contest Results

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] World Wide Digi DX Contest Results
From: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:31:56 -0700
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Not sure which RU you mean.  The winners for the FT Roundup in December had some decently high rates for FT4, but the rates could have been higher except for two reasons:

1.  The activity overall was not as high as for a RTTY contest because there is still a lot of headwind in the ham community to FTx in general for contesting.  Activity drives rates.

2.  The activity was split between FT8 and FT4, which severely splits the activity.  Even if you try to operate both modes you can easily miss the guys who ALSO operate both bodes since  the odds are decent that you won't be on the same mode at the same time.  It's not like everybody moving to the same new band as propagation changes.  In my opinion, it's a really dumb idea to use both modes in the same contest.

If you're talking about the recent RTTY Roundup, I think the answer to your question is obvious as well.  RTTY had far more activity, and even the guys who operated some FTx spent more of their time on RTTY than they did FTx.   I've occasionally made four FT4 contacts per minute (only for a couple of minutes, though) in a non-contest situation simply because I had a deep pileup, so I know it is possible.  Again .. activity drives rate.

I'm not even sure why you had to ask the question.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 1/13/2020 7:09 AM, john@kk9a.com wrote:
If Ft4 is faster than RTTY why did all of the RU winners make so few FTx(so called digital) QSOs?

BTW I thought RTTY was a digital mode.

John KK9A  (W4AAA in 2020 Roundup - 100% RTTY QSOs)



Stanley Zawrotny k4sbz wrote:

Ed,

I am both a RTTY contester and a digital contester. I operated in the ARRL RTTY Contest using FT4. I found that FT4 was faster than RTTY using S&P because I didn’t have to wait as long at the pileups. I did try RTTY S&P and got bored watching the screen while the station gave his report to a contact, the contact replied and finally the station sent a TU QRZ. Then I had a chance to.....wait for it....MOUSE CLICK on the macro that sends my callsign. If he replied to someone else, I had to.....yep......WATCH THE SCREEN while he finished that QSO. Then I would jump up and press F4 again to send my call.

Oh, you don’t do S&P, you run. That means that you MOUSE CLICK (or press a function key) to send CQ, MOUSE CLICK on a call, MOUSE CLICK on the Exchange macro, watch the screen, execute the TU QRZ macro and watch the screen to see who is next. Or do you use call stacking to make that step more automatic?  Since you are running, the calls all come to you. You don’t have to SEARCH for them or time your call to them to try to beat out the other guys. Tell me, Ed, how much fun it that?

When I use FT8/FT4, I use a combination of running and S&P. I constantly watch the decoding panel, looking for someone who is saying 73 so I can call him before he needs to send a CQ. That beats out the guys who only call someone who is calling CQ. I watch for others who are giving their exchange to see if I need their multiplier and call them when they send their 73.

WSJT-X has a check box so that you can only see stations calling CQ. Anyone that uses it is a fool. Whether you are contesting or DXing, there is much more to be gained by watching exchanges being made and taking advantage of the information revealed.

No, I don’t sit blankly watching the screen. I actively go after my Qs, running only when there are no new gems for me to work.

Anyone who makes comments about how boring digital is has not learned how to skillfully operate in that mode.

BTW, FT8/FT4 were designed using RTTY contesting as a template. Hearing such comments for a RTTY contester amazes me.

Stan, K4SBZ

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