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Re: [CQ-Contest] Robotic contest operating, why knot?

To: Hank Greeb <n8xx@arrl.org>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Robotic contest operating, why knot?
From: Jukka Klemola <jpklemola@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 01:49:28 +0200
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Well ..

I just asked Hank if he has seen this:
https://asiakas.kotisivukone.com/files/ohdxf.kotisivukone.com/contest_station_2020.pdf

OK - it is news.
We are heading to 2019.
I made the presentation January 2015, based on a request of Olli OH0XX.
Olli was putting together a DX and Contest meeting.
I was happy to contribute.


Our topic is we are looking at is computer + software capability.

Those interested, please jump to presentation slide 24.

There is information of
http://www.kcdxclub.com/pileup2009.html

Year 2009 the Skimmer won over the best of the best humans 61 - 51.
VE3DZ was the runner up. The best human.
W9WI was third.

This means in practice a machine can win over humans.
Actually, computer + +software did win already in 2009.


Getting to 2019:
Since 2009 the human evolution has not been too steep.
The computers and software sure have been developing.


73,
Jukka OH6LI

ti 18. jouluk. 2018 klo 1.04 Hank Greeb (n8xx@arrl.org) kirjoitti:
>
> Thanks, Jamie;
>
> Every time I mention a "ROBOT" or similar for CW contesting I get beat
> up by ops who say categorically say "CW Skimmers can do anywhere near as
> good as he human brain."
>
> Yet, I just privately received a presentation by a group from
> Finland who have been experimenting with "Robot" or "SYSOP" category of
> CW, RTTY, and probably other modes in Contest since sometime before 2015.
>
> I certainly agree that CW readers/skimmers started out with very poor
> results, but the report from Finland says that skimmers beat many of the
> top contest ops in recognizing call letters among simulated pileups at
> several large ham gatherings.
>
> I only mentioned FT-8 because several folks locally have reported that
> they've heard of the new version of FT-8 can be run with complete
> computer control.
>
> I've been predicting that it should be possible in the "near future" to
> run a robot controlled station and do a fair to middlin' CW score.
> Maybe not in the top 10% yet, but probably in the top 50%.
>
> I'm glad to hear that this experimentation is continuing.  Maybe in the
> near future such a setup will be "plug and play" for an experimenter who
> doesn't want to learn all the programming necessary to make a station
> work with a robot at the helm.  Then, maybe I'd even give it a try.
>
> 72/73 de n8xx Hg
> QRP >99.44% of the time
>
> On 12/17/2018 5:16 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
>
> > I think there already was a "robot" entry fr a cw test several years
> > ago....
> >
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