I'm no lawyer, but it's probably more like a parking ticket. An offense
with a fine, but not a crime.
Barry W2UP
On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 11:26 AM Kent Olsen <kilo6dko@gmail.com> wrote:
> The FCC calls them Rules and Regulations, Laws? I know people have been
> fined, but that is not the norm.
>
> Thanks
> 73
> Kent
> N6WT
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 6:03 PM Jack Brindle via CQ-Contest <
> cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, yes, at least in the US. If the FCC wishes to fine you, it is
> > $11,000 per day as long as the offense goes on. I don’t know about you,
> but
> > I would far prefer to spend $11K on antennas than giving it to the FCC.
> >
> > 73,
> > Jack, W6FB
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 28, 2025, at 3:12 PM, Kent Olsen <kilo6dko@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Canadian *law*? Is transmitting out of band a criminal offence?
> > >
> > > Kent
> > > N6WT
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 12:52 PM Kelly Taylor via CQ-Contest <
> > > cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I suggest that as long as YOU aren’t doing anything wrong, work ‘em
> and
> > >> move on.
> > >>
> > >> The lawbreaker is the American op outside his band. That should be a
> > >> problem for the FCC to deal with, not foreigners. Canadian hams are
> not
> > >> breaking Canadian law when working OOB Americans.
> > >>
> > >> If the problem is such that the contest organizer sees fit to nullify
> > both
> > >> sides of the QSO, so be it, but at least you’re not getting dinged for
> > NIL
> > >> penalties.
> > >>
> > >> ARRL SS rules are silent, other than to say operators must stick
> within
> > >> the confines of their countries’ laws.
> > >>
> > >> 73, kelly, ve4xt
> > >>
> > >>> On Oct 28, 2025, at 12:29 PM, Dave G. ve3kg@myrac.ca <
> > >> goodwindave.73@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> John K1AR said:
> > >>>
> > >>> “Yes, we only remove the offender's QSO, NOT both. We don't expect
> ops
> > to
> > >>> adjudicate OOB QSOs in real-time on the receiving side.”
> > >>>
> > >>> Great! That seems like good judgement by the adjudicators. But
> they
> > >> are
> > >>> missing another aspect:
> > >>>
> > >>> When I get OOB callers from the US, I often tell them “you’re outside
> > the
> > >>> US phone band.” The usual response is silence, but more than a few
> > >> delete
> > >>> the QSO from their logs. In adjudication, I get assessed a penalty
> for
> > >>> “NOT IN LOG” QSOs, even though I worked the station.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, should I work the OOB Yanks, and say nothing? Should I refuse
> to
> > >> log
> > >>> the OOB Yanks? Their repeated calls get annoying, sometimes quite
> > >>> desperate and often a source of QRM.
> > >>>
> > >>> This is tangly stuff.
> > >>>
> > >>> 73,
> > >>>
> > >>> Dave VE3KG
> > >>> (At VE3VN this past weekend)
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