Yet people share compiled "Call History" files that are unique to a
particular contest and provide all of the exchange information for that
contest. They aren't 100% reliable since people change names or
locations, but if you got the callsign correct ... or even pretty close
... you have a very good chance of being provided the exchange
information without having to copy it. In fact without EVER having
previously copying it in a previous contest as long as somebody who
contributed their log to the compiled file did. In my opinion, that's
an "external source".
That's why I have never used a Call History file myself. Just to prove
what was possible, though, I once downloaded the entire U.S. and
Canadian ham radio license databases and cross referenced them with the
downloadable logs of various big gun stations from various contests. I
loaded all the information into a large spreadsheet, moved some stuff
around to get the right sequence for the data fields, and then exported
it all to create a very large "Call History" file that included every
ham in the U.S. and Canada. It loaded into N1MM just fine. It probably
was only 95% accurate for location and maybe 80% accurate for names
since people using nicknames in contests, but in my opinion using it (I
didn't) would have been an effective cheat for certain contests.
73,
Dave AB7E
On 6/2/2023 8:51 PM, Raymond Benny wrote:
Your log is supplied to reflect what you copied in real time!
In most contests, using outside sources to correct a log is illegal.
Ray,
N6VR/W7YA
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 6:57 PM Doug Bates <kv4zy.1@gmail.com> wrote:
Art,
I don't claim to know all, but it strikes me as strange that a callsign
lookup on any database could be against any rules. The nearest thing I can
think of that may be anywhere near related in the rules of some contests is
forbidding "Assisted" where contesters follow a cluster to find contacts
that are currently reported as being on. Callsign lookup does not seem to
me to be anywhere close to using a cluster to find contacts. But what do I
know:)
73 & God Bless
De KV4ZY
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 9:24 PM Art Boyars <artboyars@gmail.com> wrote:
On the N1MM reflector somebody asked about how to use the "QRZ" button
during the contest for calls that don't appear in the "check" window. I
guess he was talking about the SCP or CHF data files loaded into N1MM.
A few people commented that looking it up on QRZ.com (or some other
online
database??) during the contest was against the rules.
I don't see any difference between using an online databas and using SCP
and CHF (except that SCP/CHF is faster).
What do you wise people think?
73, art K3KU
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