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Re: [CQ-Contest] RBN question

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RBN question
From: Jeff Blaine <KeepWalking188@ac0c.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 01:14:14 -0600
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I was thinking of another variable - could the polar path introduce more multipath or other effects and that may have contributed to a lower skimmer report rate?

I don't know about the skimmer's ability to decode in those conditions but it seems like all the stations from that far east are hard to copy here, at least using human ears.

73/jeff/ac0c
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
www.ac0c.com

On 2/22/2025 8:50 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
I read this series of posts with some puzzlement.  It is simply not true that the CW Skimmer algorithms would (as implied) discriminate against some calls versus some others.  So long as transmissions by any given station meet the well-publicized criteria for being spotted, and they are heard by a given Skimmer, they will be spotted.

73, Pete N4ZR

On 2/21/2025 10:27 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
I read this post a few times (and the replies).

I am still not 100% sure if you're actually serious.but in any case, UA9YBA is 9000kms from here (well into Asia just N. of Mongolia) whereas HG5E is
only 6000kms from here in EU.  I don't have any information on the exact
power output of UA9YBA nor his antenna system(s) or as one other astute
poster already said, how many Q's were spent running vs. S&P-ing.  We also
don't know if he did SO2V (or same band SO2R, which I have done once). I
could go looking but your post does not state his CW speed either.
All things to consider!

  He certainly would have less daylight to use for 20m prop to NA (20 was not open all night, afaik), but OTOH, he may have 2 openings per day (LP vs. SP)
vs. your one (SP)

Are you concerned that he may have bested you by aprox 23k pts and that he
was farther away from NA as well?

That's never a good feeling but should push you to do something different.
You can't change your QTH (smile)

BTW, you guys who are sending your calls twice in your CQ (or twice when you are answering someone running-ugh) are wasting a lot of time. Multiply the
time it takes to send your call by 3000, 4000 or 5000 times. Do the math
.That's all time you could've used to do something else.

My CQ is simply:
TEST VE9AA

...and I seem to get spotted just fine.  I always answer runners by sending
my call once.  Normally they come right back.  If they need it again, I
normally send it once again.  There's only so much time in 48hrs.

GL

(CU-all of a sudden!)

Mike VE9AA  - NB



Dear Experts,

I created a quick statistics sheet on RBN figures of the ARRL DX CW contest.
I took 4  SOSB 20M stations: HG0Y, HG5E, TM4W and UA9YBA.
Here is how many times they were spotted by RBN in North America:
HG0Y:  14236
HG5E:  16648
TM4W:  16223
UA9YBA: 4918

According to 3830scores.com and contestonlinescore.com pages these are the
QSO numbers:
HG0Y:   1005
HG5E:    902
TM4W:   1139
UA9YBA:  967

My question: how could it be that three stations were spotted by RBN three
times more than UA9YBA?
I listened to UA9YBA at the end of the contest and his CQ was absolutely
correct: "CQ UA9YBA UA9YBA TEST".

73:
Tibor
HG5E / HA1AH


Mike - Keswick Ridge, NB, Canada




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