Norton, Richard wrote:
>
> Hypothetical Situation:
>
> Assume that you are connected with the judging of a large, popular,
> international DX contest. Assume that in judging one of the modes of the
> contest, some of the judges collectively spent over 100 man-hours looking at
> a few single-operator logs to see if there was evidence of use of
> packet-aided spotting.
>
> Assume that the judges were experienced and competent at both contest
> operating and log judging.
>
> Assume that all those judges involved came to the same conclusion, which was
> that a few single-operator entrants did use packet.
>
> Assume that the judges also determined that there was no way they could
> definitely prove that packet was used. Even things like two-character-errors
> in copying a long callsign, that had just also been made by several other
> multi-op members or assisted members of the operator's club, might just be
> circumstantial.
>
> Make no assumptions about what this would do, within the log-checking
> community, to the reputations of those suspected of packet-use, even if they
> happen to be innocent.
>
> Assume that the feeling among the judges is that packet presents a means by
> which some entrants easily CAN and HAVE cheated.
>
> The question:
>
> For this theoretical case, what should be done in the future, if anything?
>
> Possible choices:
>
> 1) Do nothing. Out-foxing the committee and other contestants is part of the
> contest. If these guys can do it, and the committee can't prove anything,
> these guys deserve to win.
>
> 2) Do nothing. There is no need for a committee to judge logs. The entrants
> should be trusted. Some bad apples will always be listed, but many of the
> high scores will actually be real.
>
> 3) Do nothing. Let packet-cheaters be listed in the results the same way
> that high-power cheaters are today. Their reputations can be handled in the
> hallways of Dayton and Visalia.
>
> 4) Change the rules to allow packet spotting for single-operator
> categories. Operator skills should be only important in the Sprint.
> International DX contests should be primarily a measure of location and
> station.
>
> 5) Permit the committee to make a decision based on a vote of the judges to
> reclassify the log. Find more volunteers to perform these studies in every
> contest.
>
> 6) Beef up the judging committee. Have referees at the stations during the
> contest like was done at the WRTC. Find volunteers in all parts of the
> country who know something about contests who want to spend their weekends
> acting as referees.
>
> 7) Work strongly to minimize this problem by discouraging use of packet in
> DX contests by anyone.
>
> 8) Work even more strongly to minimize this problem by making use of packet
> in contests, by anyone, against the rules.
>
> Dick Norton N6AA/VK5
> NortonR@MRD.SRL.DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU
I vote for number 2. We don't get paid in this hobby. The only thing
that is hurt is our egos when we don't win. And big deal. We all know
that some contest stations cheat and run illegal power. In the back
rooms in Dayton we all know who they are. And those of us doing it
legally are content with coming behind the cheaters.
My vote: Let them win. I'm in it for the fun.
73 and CU in the next one (whether I win or not!!!!)
Doug WD8AUB
PS If we put as much effort into making our stations as competitive as
possible and towards preserving contesting in general (with proper
promotion of the youngsters and leadership by example) --- rather than
into developing Super Duper CIA Grade Artificial Intelligence Software
aimed at detecting the smallest of grievances so that ALL logs are on a
perfectly level playing table --- then our Contest Hobby will be
enriched.
(Sorry, that was an unusually long Run-On sentence)
>From km9p@contesting.com (Bill Fisher, KM9P) Fri Sep 27 03:25:39 1996
From: km9p@contesting.com (Bill Fisher, KM9P) (Bill Fisher, KM9P)
Subject: Ferrite Summary Available
Message-ID: <199609270225.WAA05260@paris.akorn.net>
I put it on the web... http://www.contesting.com
73
Bill
---------------------------------------------
| Contesting Online... The ultimate |
| source of ham radio contest information |
| http://www.contesting.com |
---------------------------------------------
>From rlboyd@CapAccess.org (Rich L. Boyd) Fri Sep 27 04:06:15 1996
From: rlboyd@CapAccess.org (Rich L. Boyd) (Rich L. Boyd)
Subject: 2 radio ops- headphone questions
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91-FP.960926230538.2396E-100000@cap1.capaccess.org>
On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Steven Nace wrote:
> My present 2 radio set-up stinks. This includes the way I listen to 2
> radios at once. I am soliciting methods or preferences from those of you
> that have success with 2-at-once.
>
> One question is: If 1 rig is audible in each ear, do you have a serious
> handicap when one radio is turned down all the way? Does this present an
> 'inbalance' in your head? Is there a way to counteract this inbalance?
>
> Any advice and experiences shall be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> KN5H not KN5S
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> | Steven K. Nace KN5H Phone: 505-525-6205 |
> | AlliedSignal Technical Svcs E-Mail: Snace@tdrss.wsc.nasa.gov |
> | Spacecraft Engineering Group Alt E-mail:steven@zianet.com |
> | NASA White Sands Complex Fax: 505-525-6229 |
> | Las Cruces, NM 88004 Alt Fax: 505-527-7223 |
> +____________________________________________________________________+
>
>
If you turn one radio all the way down, all you have to do is flip the
switch on your switch box and you get the other radio in both ears
again and your concern is addressed. 73 - Rich Boyd, KE3Q
>From wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) Fri Sep 27 04:05:43 1996
From: wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) (Bill Turner)
Subject: FCC
References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.960924154455.25796A-100000@garcia.efn.org>
Message-ID: <324b4417.2088267@mail.eskimo.com>
On Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Cleve D Leclair <dleclair@efn.org>
wrote:
>
>the correct address is http://www.webbuild.com/~ki4hn/vanity.htm
>
> not /~ki4hn/vanitytd.htm
>
>Your welcome....
>
>Cleve - N7IXG - For awhile longer
>
------------------------------------------------
Actually, they are both correct. The /vanity.htm is one page higher. Either
one gets you there.
You're welcome too...
73, Bill W7LZP
wrt@eskimo.com
>From Andrew@gi0nwg.demon.co.uk (Andrew Williamson) Thu Sep 26 14:21:27 1996
From: Andrew@gi0nwg.demon.co.uk (Andrew Williamson) (Andrew Williamson)
Subject: Another way to make top ten
Message-ID: <mURNKNAXNoSyEwFO@gi0nwg.demon.co.uk>
In message <n1368456386.86646@smtp.svl.trw.com>, Tim Coad
<Tim_Coad@smtp.svl.trw.com> writes
>1. Do we need mandatory drug testing of contest ops?
No way maaan, don't spoil my fun !!! (kids, I'm joking, don't do drugs).
>2. Are those East Coast big guns really running 3rd and 4th tier euros' or are
>they just reading calls from the callbook?
Probably running them as they're normally 30+ dB over S9 in EU and 10KHz
wide, but that's another story altogether HI !!. Hey, how do I make an
FT1000MP do that ??
>3. Does running QRO in contests really make you more likely to have female
>offspring?
Hey, you can contest at the same time....... I'm impressed.
>4.a How many of you out there also have had hallucinations after 40 hours of
>no sleep?
Me, but make a cup of coffee at 6 times strength and you soon snap out
of it.
>4.b and what were they?
Can't remember. I was having an out-of-body experience at the time.
>5. What do you think about a new contest that is held ONLY on 14.230?
Sounds like a great idea. Do those SSTV guys really think they are
going to get a picture across cleanly in the middle of CQWW SSB.... I
think NOT. They only do it to create deliberate QRM (illegally ????).
>6. Was the Russian woodpecker really a YCCC device to keep west coast hams
>from running JA's on 40?
Hey, where were those great JA runs during WRTC ?
Andrew Williamson, GI0NWG/AC6WI (and not changing under any Gate. Who cares
anyway).
E-mail : andrew@gi0nwg.demon.co.uk
>From wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) Fri Sep 27 04:12:28 1996
From: wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) (Bill Turner)
Subject: CONTEST related post!
References: <199609241439.KAA04021@vixa.voyager.net>
Message-ID: <324b45cc.2524591@mail.eskimo.com>
Just remember Bruce, all this advice flowing in to you is from guys who intend
to beat your pants off... :-)
73, Bill W7LZP
wrt@eskimo.com
>From harpole@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Charles H. Harpole) Fri Sep 27 04:26:21 1996
From: harpole@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Charles H. Harpole) (Charles H. Harpole)
Subject: Another way to make top ten
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.960926232409.3785D-100000@pegasus>
Yes, I have had visions during contests. The best one was that I was
surrounded behind my chair by about a dozen of my Am. Indian ancestors.
One of them, a child, slipped out of the group and sat in my lap.
Worked a 100/hr rate that hour. de K4VUD
>From k1jks@juno.com (William G Bithell) Fri Sep 27 06:48:54 1996
From: k1jks@juno.com (William G Bithell) (William G Bithell)
Subject: Multiple-Choice Packet-in-Contests Quiz
References: <324C2385@msmail.dsto.defence.gov.au>
Message-ID: <19960927.045440.5271.4.K1JKS@juno.com>
Nice letter Dick,
Packet isn't all it seems...Unless you can bust huge piles with one call
it can lead to a serious reduction in your rate as you QSY from one
pile to the next. The S/O guys seem to have better scores than the
assisted , with some big gun stations getting croaked because of packet.
Why not simply allow packet? There's no way to prevent someone from
monitoring unconnected, so Let everyone use it. It doesn't replace
tuning!
Put me down for #4
Bill, K1JKS
K1JKS@JUNO.COM
>From sm3bdz@pobox.com (Lars Harlin) Fri Sep 27 07:23:43 1996
From: sm3bdz@pobox.com (Lars Harlin) (Lars Harlin)
Subject: TS-870
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960927062343.00699ccc@www.pocab.se>
Hi!
Have had the opportunity to test the Kenwood TS870 for a few days.
Likes the receiver. Quiet and smooth, not as hysterical as the
ICOM crap....
However, I find one thing very annoying. As I am a CW op primarily, I
prefer QSK at all times. The controlrelay in the 870 is very clanky and
I have not find a way to disable is like I can do with my 850. Is that a
SBTW-(shit behind the wheel) problem or is there a need for modification?
Appreciate any ideas.
73 de Lars /SM3BDZ
>From TREY@TGV.COM (Trey Garlough) Fri Sep 27 07:52:01 1996
From: TREY@TGV.COM (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions
Message-ID: <843807121.161390.TREY@TGV.COM>
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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
CQ-Contest@TGV.COM
by Trey Garlough, WN4KKN & Jim Reisert, AD1C
July 1, 1996
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Contained in this FAQ:
1. General Information about the FAQ and CQ-Contest@TGV.COM
o About this FAQ
o About CQ-Contest@TGV.COM
o Editorial Guidelines
o Appropriate Topics for Discussion
o Inappropriate Topics for Discussion
2. Subscribing and Unsubscribing
o General Information about Subscribing and Unsubscribing
o Subscribing to the list
o Unsubscribing from the list
o Getting the list in Digest form
o Temporarily stopping and restarting mail
3. Operating Practices
4. Mailing List Archives
5. E-mail addresses of Contesters
o General Information about E-mail Addresses
o WB5VZL List
o CQ-Contest REVIEW
o QRZ! Ham Radio CDROM
o World Wide Web Directory Services
o The old-fashioned way!
6. Related Mailing Lists
o Contest Results Group -- 3830@contesting.com
o Kids contest group -- kids@contesting.com
o CT users group -- ct-user@ve7tcp.ampr.org
o NA users group -- na-user@ve7tcp.ampr.org
o SuperDuper users group -- sd-user@blacksheep.org
o TRLOG users group -- trlog@contesting.com
o Internet DX Reflector - dx@ve7tcp.ampr.org
7. Internet Resources for Contesters
o Contest Log Submissions
o World Wide Web
8. Finding out more about the Internet
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1) General Information about the FAQ, CQ-Contest
1.01) About this FAQ
This FAQ will be posted every so often to the CQ-Contest mailing list.
If there's something you'd like added to this FAQ, please send mail to
WN4KKN (trey@cisco.COM), and he will update it.
1.02) About CQ-Contest@TGV.COM
CQ-Contest@TGV.COM is an electronic mail reflector dedicated to hams
interested in all types of amateur radio contesting. This is a good place
for contest-related announcements, discussions and rumors. This forum is
more like the NCJ than QST; INFO-HAMS@UCSD.EDU and rec.radio.amateur.misc
are good places to look for a more rounded discussion of the hobby.
Although there is overlap between contesters and DXers, CQ-Contest is not a
DX-oriented group. DX@ve7tcp.ampr.org is an electronic mailing list
(reflector) dedicated to the discussion of DXing. For details on how to
subscribe to this and other mailing lists, consult the section entitled
Related Mailing Lists.
CQ-Contest is NOT the place to announce your score after a contest.
3830@contesting.com is an electronic mailing list (reflector) for reporting
scores. See the Related Mailing Lists section below for details on how to
subscribe. Jimmy Floyd, WA4ZXA also collects scores and will occasionally
post a summary to CQ-Contest.
Each message you send to CQ-Contest@TGV.COM will be sent out to all the
other subscribers, kind of like a 2-meter repeater that has a coverage
radius of 12,000 miles or so. Think of sending mail to the list as the
equivalent of an ANNOUNCE/FULL message on PacketCluster. Use regular E-mail
to send a message to a specific individual.
1.03) Editorial Guidelines
The rules are very simple. Postings to CQ-CONTEST@TGV.COM should be
non-commerical and related to radio contesting. Anything outside of those
boundries should not be seen here unless specifically approved by WN4KKN
(trey@cisco.com). If Trey thinks the update has merit, he will likely
approve it.
1.04) Appropriate topics for discussion
* Contest Announcements: Must be true contests, not "operating events"
or "special events".
* Contester's shack (inside) hardware/software: Must be relevant to
CONTESTING, not just a discussion of bells and whistles that have
little or no application to contesting.
* Contester's outside shack (antennas/towers/coax/relays): Again, must
be RELEVANT to contesting.
* Contester's strategy: Before, during, after. How you planned/executed
your activities.
* Contester's skill: What you do that makes you good (or bad).
* Contester's stories: Must be directly about contesting.
* Contest ethics
* Contest rules
* Contest operators: who was where, who is good, who is an SK, etc.
1.05) Inappropriate topics for discussion
CQ-Contest@TGV.COM is mailing list dedidcated to contesters talking about
contesting. Termendous lattitude is given to INTERESTING topics ranging far
afield, but there are some types of messages that are strictly
inappropriate. For instance:
* Meta-discussion about the CQ-Contest mailing list. These should be
conducted in private with WN4KKN (trey@cisco.com)
* The summary sheet from your latest contest effort. That should go to
3830@contesting.com.
* What is the QSL route for xxx?
* What is the E-mail address for xxx?
* Is the xxx mailing list up/down?
* Is the xxx DXpedition on the air yet?
* Product annoucements.
* Solicitations for nominations for "Young Ham of the Year".
* Advertising (unless approved in advance by WN4KKN trey@cisco.com)
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2) Subscribing and unsubscribing
2.01) General information about subscribing and unsubscribing
Subscription management is handled automatically by a program that answers
mail sent to CQ-Contest-REQUEST@TGV.COM. This address also answers
administrative requests, like stopping mail, or showing a list of
subscribers. Subject lines are ignored.
PLEASE do NOT send these requests to the list mailing address!
2.02) Subscribing to the list
To join the group, send a message to CQ-Contest-REQUEST@TGV.COM and write
the word SUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
2.03) Unsubscribing from the list
To leave the group, send a message to CQ-Contest-REQUEST@TGV.COM and write
the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
2.04) Getting the list in Digest form
Tack (je1cka@nal.go.jp) has graciously offered to redistribute CQ-Contest
messages in digest form. This means that all messages posted to CQ-Contest
on a given day will be bundled together and resent as a single message to
the subscribers of Tack's list. This is useful for people with Internet
providers that place a limit on the number of messages you can have in your
mailbox at once. This is the case for many of the JA subscribers.
To subscribe to JE1CKA's CQ-Contest-Digest list, send a message to
Contest-Request@DUMPTY.NAL.GO.JP that says:
SUBSCRIBE CQ-Contest-digest your_callsign
If you are subscribed to CQ-Contest, remember to send the a message to
CQ-Contest-REQUEST@TGV.COM that says:
SET NOMAIL
Since you will be getting the messages in digest form, you won't need to
get them directly from CQ-Contest@TGV.COM, but you will need to remain
subscribed if you still want to post messages.
2.05) Temporarily stopping and restarting mail
To stop mail (for example if you're going on vacation), send a message to
CQ-Contest-REQUEST@TGV.COM that says:
SET NOMAIL
To start mail again, send a message to CQ-Contest-REQUEST@TGV.COM that
says:
SET MAIL
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3) Operating Practices
Electronic mail is different from packet radio, in that many subscribers
receive their E-mail through commercial services such as CompuServe and
MCImail. In essence, many people are paying for each byte of every message
sent to CQ-Contest. In order to minimize spurious messages, please follow
the operating hints detailed below:
* Put your name, callsign and E-mail address on every message you send.
We don't all know everyone by just a callsign, nickname or Internet
address. Furthermore, not everyone's E-mail software lets you see all
the headers of the message, so it's sometimes difficult to reply to an
individual posting without knowing the sender's address.
* Use a subject line that indicates the true subject of your message.
* Wait a while before answering someone's question. Six other people
have probably answered it already. Most answers should go directly to
the person who posed the question, rather than to the list.
* Unlike PacketCluster, many people pay $$$ when they receive messages.
Some people pay per message, some per byte. Therefore, please take
this into consideration when writing a response. Would you pay $0.50
to read the message that you just wrote?
* Eschew flamage. If someone sends a flame to the list and you can't
bite your tongue, send your flaming reply directly back to the flaming
individual, not back to the list. No one wants to pay $1.00 to read
these messages (the original flame + your reply). Treat flamers the
way you would 2-meter repeater jammers - ignore them.
* Make sure there is something of value in each message you send to the
list. Avoid messages that are a complete reprint of someone else's
message, with nothing but "I agree" or "Me too" added to the bottom --
not much value there.
* Some people pay by the byte, so when following up to someone else's
message, be sure to include only the essential pieces or thread of the
note. Don't include those 20 extra header lines that your mail gateway
tacked onto the original message.
* If you are going to make a personal reply, make sure to remove
CQ-Contest from the header of your outgoing mail message. Otherwise,
everyone else on the list is going to see your personal message.
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4) Mailing List Archives
You can fetch messages from the CQ-Contest archive by sending a message to
FileServ@TGV.COM that says:
SENDME CQ-Contest-ARCHIVE.yyyy-mm
where yyyy-mm is the year and month of the archive desired. For additional
information, you can send a message to FileServ@TGV.COM that says HELP.
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5) E-mail addresses of Contesters
5.01) General information about E-mail addresses
There are number of ways to find the E-mail address for a particular
contester. Please do NOT send a message to CQ-Contest that says "Does
anyone have the E-mail address for ______?"
5.02) WB5VZL List
George Fremin, WB5VZL (geoiii@bga.com), maintains a fairly current list of
contester E-mail addresses. Send him a note to him asking for his list. Or
you can find the list on the WWW at http://www.contesting.com/emails.html.
5.03) CQ-Contest REVIEW
You can get a list of CQ-Contest subscribers by sending a message to
CQ-Contest-REQUEST@TGV.COM that says REVIEW.
5.04) QRZ! Ham Radio CDROM
The QRZ! Callsign Database has the E-mail addresses for over 30,000 hams!
You can access it on the WWW at http://www.qrz.com.
5.05) World Wide Web Directory Services
There are several services on the WWW for looking up E-mail address for a
given name. Here are a few of them:
Bigfoot http://bigfoot.com/
Four11 http://www.Four11.com/
LookUP! http://www.lookup.com/
OKRA http://okra.ucr.edu/okra/
WhoWhere?http://www.whowhere.com/
Thanks to Steve Zettel KJ7CH for the information!
5.06) The old-fashioned way!
If you've exhausted every other resource, try calling the person you seek
on the telephone and asking for their E-mail address directly. Or send a
letter to their Callbook address (and include an SASE if you desire a quick
response).
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6) Related Mailing Lists
6.01) Contest results group -- 3830@contesting.com
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to post-contest score reports, as is
done on 3830 KHz after contests. Summaries of the scores reported to this
mailing list are posted on CQ-Contest on a regular basis after contests. To
subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
3830-request@contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.
6.02) Kids contest group -- kids@contesting.com
This mailing list is used to post the results of the SquINT contests which
are announced on CQ-CONTEST. These contests encourage kids to participate
in a fun filled event and gain exposure to amateur radio and contesting.
Contact n6tr@contesting.com to sign up and receive a copy of the rules.
6.03) CT users group -- ct-user@ve7tcp.ampr.org
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the CT Logging Program, by K1EA.
To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
ct-user-request@ve7tcp.ampr.org that says SUBSCRIBE.
6.04) NA users group -- na-user@ve7tcp.ampr.org
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the MA Logging Program, by K8CC.
To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
na-user-request@ve7tcp.ampr.org that says SUBSCRIBE.
6.05) SuperDuper users group -- sd-user@blacksheep.org
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the SuperDuper Logging Program,
by EI5DI. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
MAJORDOMO@blacksheep.org that says SUBSCRIBE SD-USER.
6.06) TRLOG users group -- trlog@contesting.com
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the TRLOG Logging Program, by
N6TR. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
trlog-request@contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.
6.07) Internet DX Reflector - dx@ve7tcp.ampr.org
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to Amateur Radio DXing. To subscribe
to this mailing list, send a message to dx-request@ve7tcp.ampr.org that
says SUBSCRIBE.
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7) Internet Resources for Contesters
7.01) Contest Log Submissions
Jimmy Floyd, WA4ZXA (floydjr@interpath.com) is the unofficial Internet
scorekeeper. He compiles the "score rumors" that are posted to the 3830 and
CQ-Contest reflectors.
Contest Name Address
ARRL Contests contest@arrl.org
CQ WPX n8bjq@erinet.com
DARC Worked All Europe (WAE) 100712.2226@CompuServe.com
NCJ Sprint (CW) cwsprint@contesting.com
NCJ Sprint (SSB) aoniswan@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu
North American QSO Party (CW) w9nq@ccis.com
North American QSO Party (SSB)merchant@silcom.com
7.02) World Wide Web
Contesting On-line http://www.contesting.com/
ARRL Contest Branch http://www.arrl.org/contests/
CQ Contest Magazine http://www.access.digex.net/~cqmag/
National Contest Journal (NCJ) http://www.waterw.com/~ncj/
KA9FOX Web Page http://www.QTH.com/ka9fox/
LA9HW Web Page http://www.sn.no/~janalme/hammain.html
OH2KI Web Page http://mpoli.fi/~leif/oh2ki.html
WB2K Contest DXpedition Registry http://www.mordor.com/wb2k/dxmenu.html
CT by K1EA Software http://www.ve7tcp.ampr.org/Software/ct/
Super Duper by EI5DI http://www.iol.ie/~okanep/
TR by N6TR http://www.QTH.com/tr/
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8) Finding out more about the Internet
Pick up a copy of the book The Internet Companion by Tracy LaQuey,
Addison-Wesley, ISBN 0-201-62224-6. If your local technical book store
doesn't carry it, you can order from Computer Literacy, 2590 North First
Street, San Jose, CA 95131. Their phone number is +1 408 435-0744.
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This FAQ was written by Trey Garlough, WN4KKN (trey@cisco.COM) and
converted to HTML by Jim Reisert, AD1C (AD1C@tiac.net). Many thanks to Jim
and to everyone else who has contributed to this FAQ.
>From apmeyer@ix.netcom.com (ALEX A.P. MEYER) Fri Sep 27 12:56:15 1996
From: apmeyer@ix.netcom.com (ALEX A.P. MEYER) (ALEX A.P. MEYER)
Subject: Need help downloading.
Message-ID: <199609271156.EAA00269@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com>
I need to download Plus386.EXE from KD7P (Logplus Program),in
Washington State.
For some reasoon I can not down load that file.
I can download a ZIP file but not a EXE file.
Why I do not know.
Any help out here?
Any one can download that file for me and send itto me in Ziped form.
Thanks 73 es DX ..............ALEX.........WB6AFJ................
PS:LOGPLUS PHONE:1-360-653-9652
OR:
http://www.everett.com/users/logplus/
http://www.everett.com/users/logplus/software/
>From wb4flb@juno.com (Robert G Hext) Fri Sep 27 16:19:54 1996
From: wb4flb@juno.com (Robert G Hext) (Robert G Hext)
Subject: 24 hour contest clock
Message-ID: <19960927.071956.6423.0.WB4FLB@juno.com>
The quartz movement of my 24 hour contest clock died recently. I can't
find a replacement movement. I have found several but all are 12 hour
movements. Any one have any ideas where I can a replacement?? I needs
to be a mini quarts clock movement for a 24 hour clock, and I think I
need a short or medium shaft.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and 73 Gary, WB4FLB
wb4flb@juno.com
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