Re: [CQ-Contest] repeating callsign - what the heck?

[kq2m@kq2m.com]

The inverse of this is when you (the running station) are not sure of 
the call of the caller that just called you and you send IW1? and the 
report.  And then the IW1 (or other callsign) sends your report but NOT 
his callsign.
And you say IW1 CL?  CL?  and silence.

I can't tell you how much time is wasted on NIL qso's that I have to 
remove from the log every contest because they do NOT respond with their 
callsign!
Stations calling:  If you are not prepared to make a FULL QSO and give 
your callsign when the station that you are calling requests it, then 
please do NOT call!  Do NOT assume that just because you gave your 
callsign 1, 2 or 3 times initially when you called that the running 
station that your callsign was copied correctly.  There is always qsb, 
qrm, qrn, precip static, carriers, spurs, and a raft of other rf garbage 
that can obliterate part or all of your callsign so that the run station 
did not get it cleanly.  BE PREPARED to give your callsign AGAIN when 
asked for it.  PLEASE DO NOT leave the freq. until the run station 
acknowledges the qso.
And yes, please give your callsign only ONCE when you call.  Giving it 
twice just slows everything down for everyone and qrm's the station that 
is already being worked (because they gave their callsign ONCE).
73


Bob, KQ2M



 10:56, Mike VE9AA ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca wrote:
> I disagree, respectfully with your analysis Stan.
> If I am running and this happens, you have a chance to correct me (2 
> scenarios follow)
>  
> Scenario #1
>  
> me:  TEST VE9AA
> you: K4SBZ
> me: K4SBZ 5NN <exchange>
> you: 5NN <exchange>
> me: TU VE9AA
>  
> In scenario one, I haven't busted your call, so why would you want to 
> send it to me twice?  You've heard me send it back to you correctly.
>  
> Scenario #2
> me:  TEST VE9AA
> you: K4SBZ
> me: K4HBZ 5NN <exchange>
> you: K4SBZ (or if you're adamant, MAYBE send it twice in this 
> scenario-could be QRM, QRN etc)
> me: K4SBZ 5NN <exchange>
> you: 5NN <exchange>
> me: TU VE9AA
>  
> In scenario #2, I busted your call but you withheld the exchange until 
> I corrected it.  You heard your callsign come back to you.
> This is the most efficient way to ensure &quot;acks&quot; from both 
> ends.
>  
> You can do you, but time how long it takes you to send your callsign. 
>  Now multiply that by 3000 times in the ARRL DX CW.  How much time have 
> you used up sending it twice ?
>  
> Oh, and to answer your question, as the OP, the obvious answer is I 
> would like to hear your callsign only sent one time.  If I bust it, 
> give me a chance to correct it.  That's how it works.
>  
> 73 Mike VE9AA &quot;NB&quot;
>  
>  
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: k4sbz.stan@gmail.com
> To: ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18th 2025, 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] repeating callsign - what the heck?
> It’s been my experience that a high percentage of ops get my callsign 
> wrong. This results in NILs in the final scoring. I now send it twice 
> and this has improved the accuracy of my contacts. Which is worse for 
> your log — a slightly longer call or a NIL in your log? Stan, K4SBZ 
> &quot;Real radio bounces off the sky.&quot; > On Feb 18, 2025, at 
> 9:41 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > > I've done the ARRL DX CW many 
> times. (and do most of the majors; > CQWW,WPX,WAE,RDX many many times) 
> >
> > Is some institution in EU (or some popular EU logging software)
> instructing > EU's to call you with their callsign twice? > (or if I am 
> running, they'll again put their callsign in their message when > they 
> come back to me yet one more time? > > I am hesitant to even complain 
> (make note of is more like it) as they made > up 86.6% of my log this 
> weekend (TU EU!!) but this weekend more than ever > before in my 
> decades on the bands did I have (what seemed like) every 8th or > 9th 
> caller doing this at times(maybe more at times). I ran anywhere from > 
> 34wpm to 40wpm (mostly 38wpm) this weekend and especially on the high 
> bands > I was coming back to the loudest guy just as soon as they had 
> sent their > callsign ONCE. Occasionally when my rig was just going 
> into TX, I'd catch > part of a CW character telling me they had sent 
> their call again. No > response (I doubled with them) > > Thank 
> goodness for the &quot;=&quot; key in N1MMLogger+ (repeats last message 
> sent) I > about wore it out. > > Thoughts? > > VE9AA “NB” > > Mike - 
> Keswick Ridge, NB, Canada > > > > > 
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