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Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest within a contest

To: <n2ic@arrl.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest within a contest
From: <k5zd@charter.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 12:15:09 -0400
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Not necessarily.  The third party could download all the logs and do their
own scoring.  The only things the public logs are missing are the checklogs.

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=charter.net@contesting.com> On
Behalf Of Steve London
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 9:21 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest within a contest

Without access to the UBN's (LCR's), the validity of an independent party
scoring a contest within a contest is questionable.

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 03/15/2020 06:35 AM, k5zd@charter.net wrote:
> The grid-locator has not been removed from the CQ WW and WPX public logs.
Not all logs included this information, but for those that did, it appears
in their public log.
> 
> The grid-locator information was just added to the contest submissions
(and to the Cabrillo spec) in 2019.
> 
> Randy K5ZD
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=charter.net@contesting.com> 
> On Behalf Of ko7ss--- via CQ-Contest
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:35 AM
> To: Reflector Cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest within a contest
> 
> On 3/13/2020 01:01 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
> 
> "your groups would be better served by using the contest weekend
assignment and exchange and basic scoring rules as an "open source"
activity. Sponsor your own contest within a contest that operates during the
weekend and interfaces with the existing contesters but have your own set of
rules. Enter as checklogs to the sponsors and see if the sponsors will
provide all the logs to you for your own scoring and cross checking"
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> This is a very interesting idea. The CQWW and CQ WPX public logs are
already available in Cabrillo format, the ARRL DX logs in non Cabrillo
format.
> 
> It would be interesting to see distance based scoring applied to the CQWW
and ARRL DX contests. Most interesting would be the CQ WPX with 1 point Q X
mults scoring.
> 
> The W3KM Cabrillo evaluator could be used (?) to rescore the top 50 logs
in each category. The only problem is the Maidenhead grid square has been
removed from the public logs for "privacy reasons", even though a grid
square is 500 sq miles in size.
> 
> A website Realcontestscores.com could be set up.
> 
> Maybe the Top Ten results would all be the same. Maybe not.
> 
> Maybe when a few sunspots come back no one will care that coastal W1/2/3's
dominate the Top Ten. For now though I am considering hiring a social media
PR firm to promote my 2 hour 20M EU opening on 20M, Watch out W1/Maine, I'm
coming for you next year!
> 
> 73, Bill KO7SS in Arizona
> 
> 
> 
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