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Re: [CQ-Contest] SSB in CW band

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SSB in CW band
From: "Robert Naumann" <w5ov@w5ov.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 06:50:20 -0600
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I would like to offer a differing opinion.

Yesterday, I was operating briefly on 20m SSB. Many European stations were
calling CQ in the 14.230 area. During their 100% legal operation, several
SSTV stations were deliberately attempting to interfere with them. 

The abuse of 20 meters in this contest is unconscionable by any standards
and is precisely why contesters hate deliberately interfering non-contesters
so much.

It's all a matter of perspective.

Portions of 40m may sound dead from the west coast - but it's not. In fact,
portions of 40m often sound empty from the East coast, but in Europe, it's
wall-to-wall.

Makes me thing of the recently announced changes to the 80m band. What's
going to happen to all the CW, rtty and other digital mode guys that have
been operating above 3600 for years? They get pushed down into the CW band?
That's going to be just great.

73,

Bob W5OV



-----Original Message-----
From: N7MAL [mailto:N7MAL@CITLINK.NET] 
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 11:33 PM
To: Hank Kohl K8DD
Cc: CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SSB in CW band

It is 0330Z Sat evening and between 7040 and 7062 it is a virtual wasteland.

5T1 on 7040 and then nothing until a VE7 on 7062. Very few signals, mostly 
CW. A check of cluster spots also confirms this wasted space. Yet P40W who 
is an American ham is going strong on 7016, plus a fist-fight between some 
CW guys, one of whom is defending P40W.
It's just not the CW portion getting destroyed on 40 but also the upper 
portion of the SSB segment. 40 meters in this particular contest has become 
a free-for-all for contesters without regard to anyone or anything else. 
There has to be boundaries established, and enforced, by the contest 
committee. Just because you go to P40 or PJ2 or wherever doesn't give you a 
birthright to a clear frequency at the expense of people who are not 
interested in our contest.
The abuse of 40 meters in this contest is unconscionable by any standards 
and is precisely why people who are not contesters hate us so much.


MAL
N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hank Kohl K8DD
  To: N7MAL
  Cc: CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com
  Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 17:26
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SSB in CW band


  N7MAL wrote:
  > I would like to suggest to the CQWWSSB guru's that a cut-off frequency 
be
  > set for 40 meters. I think 7025 and above is more than reasonable for 
SSB
  > operation during the contest. This year is worse than last and has been
  > getting progressively worse every year. There have been many pleas in 
past
  > years but they fall on deaf ears at the contest committee.
  Who is going to enforce it?
  How is it going to be enforced?
  Disqualify a large operation because they slipped below the suggest
  frequency limit?
  Are you up for the job?
  > There is plenty
  > of unused frequency spectrum above 7025. I checked several times and 
there
  > was no valid reason for any station to operate below 7025. It might be
  > different if every 2.5 khz there was someone operating in the contest 
but
  > there wasn't. In fact there were several 20-25 khz segments where no one

was
  > operating, yet there were stations below 7025 operating in the contest.
  >
  Maybe there were holes on 40M in Bullhead City, but here in the Thumb of
  Michigan
  there were not any 20 - 25 KHz segments empty last night up to about up
  to about
  0500Z when I crashed.  It was wall to wall with a lot of frequencies
  supporting two
  (and maybe more) stations on the same frequency listening to different
  frequencies
  above 7150.   And that's with a K1/100 and a dipole up about 55 ft.  It
  was packed with
  EU, AF, Caribbean and VE stations from 7026 to 7100 with a couple below
  7025.
  And I'd bet it was crowded even more if you would have listened on the
  antennas at
  KC1XX, K1TTT, or W3LPL
  It sounded a lot like it did several years ago when we went to FP for CQ
  WW SSB - real
  hard to find a frequency on 40 to call CQ and listen up in the US segment.

  73     Hank     K8DD

  > Thank you
  >
  >
  > MAL
  > N7MAL
  > BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
  > http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
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