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Re: [Amps] Basic Question Finding Passive Component Up in Smoke

To: Vic K2VCO <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>, "amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Basic Question Finding Passive Component Up in Smoke
From: john starr001 <jstarr001@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:17:53 -0400
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I shorted it right at the B+ and the supply caps, bleeders, etc are not near 
the point of the smoke puff which was around the tube sockets.  I guess I 
should power it up, use a lighbulb current limiter and see what happens? tnx 
john
 > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 21:03:46 -0700
> From: k2vco.vic@gmail.com
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Basic Question Finding Passive Component Up in Smoke
> 
> Well, if you grounded the B+ on the plate side of the RF choke, you could 
> have heated the 
> choke enough to make smoke without burning it out. It would probably be 
> discolored in that 
> case.
> 
> Where did you ground the B+ and what was between that point and the power 
> supply?
> 
> On 4/9/2013 8:41 PM, john starr001 wrote:
> > I am a beginner learning amplifier basics and decided to build a simple 
> > 6146 class C final CW rig with a 6CL6 driven crystal oscillator much like 
> > the Eico 720 or Globe Scout.  The power supply is a full bridge 600v B+ and 
> > 300v non-regulated screen supply.  I did something stupid and accidentally 
> > grounded the B+ supply.  So I blew the 3A AC line fuse but just before one 
> > of the components in the 6CL6 or 6146 circuitry went up in a cloud of 
> > smoke. I have visualized every cap, resistor and inductor and find no 
> > damage.  I have measured every resistor, directly or indirectly, in-circuit 
> > and all are to spec.  No open inductors and no shorted ceramic caps (all in 
> > -circuit).  I tested the power supply disconnected from the RF circuit and 
> > the supply, without load seems fine.  The 6146 and 6CL6 test fine as well.  
> > I want to put it all back together again and test the voltages with the 
> > 6146 and 6CL6 removed but I am a chicken worrying about blowing up 
> > something else (like my transfom
 er
>   t
> >   he next time).   There was a obvious puff of smoke so something was lost. 
> >  I figure approaching this kind of problem must be routine for you guys 
> > working on amps so would appreciate learning what would be your next steps 
> > to find the bad part while minimizing further damage.  I thought the 6146 
> > screen would burn up if the plate B+ were suddenly lost but it tests fine 
> > on my Hickock. tnx and 73john                                    
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