| On Feb 7, 2005, at 4:48 PM, <sccook1@cox.net> wrote:
 
 
 I recall seeing more dB than expected on may occasions.  Rich may 
recall one Saturday morning where the probigation between southwest 
Arizona and Somis was significantly improved by the injection of 
sufficient RF.
 I remember this and it was one of the longest spans where the effect 
was observed.  However, there were plenty of times when there where no 
free 3db.
 cheerz, Steve
 -SC
 
 
 
 From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: 2005/02/07 Mon PM 12:19:58 EST
To: k7fm <k7fm@teleport.com>
CC: amps@contesting.com,  Ian White G3SEK <g3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Amps] 10dB and propagation
 
 On Feb 6, 2005, at 7:16 PM, k7fm wrote:
 
 
 Stanford Research Institute found otherwise."I don't believe there is ANY transmitter on earth (amateur or pro)
that
could influence the ionosphere by causing a non-linear behavior in
that." 
 
 
 Looking at the situation in reverse, if an amateur transmitter (evenoperating at illegal power) can cause a non-linear reflection, then 
it
 would
 be probable that power used would be at the beginning of the 
non-linear
 range.  If that was so, then higher power would be much more likely 
to
 trigger the non-linear reflection.
 Since the effect was observed in the early morning, perhaps it has 
more
 to do with D-layer absorption, than F-layer reflection?
 
 
 There are enough higher power stations
operating that the event would be reasonably common, and AT&T would
likely
have discovered it when they were using high power in the 30's for
overseas
telephone service.  That such events have not been regularly reported
by
higher power raises a red flag. In the 50's, CQ carried an article that proclaimed that reducing 
power
 would
 trigger ionospheric amplification.  It was in the April issue.   That
 sounds
 like the same theory in reverse.  Perhaps this present discussion can
 be
 submitted to CQ in time for the April, 2005 issue.
 
 Colin  K7FM
 cheers, Colin
Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734.  www.somis.org
 
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