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Re: [Amps] Solid state relays..again

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Solid state relays..again
From: "Jeff Blaine" <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:14:13 -0600
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As an alternative to a resistor based SSR, what about something like the Cyrdom SST240 soft-start module?

This gadget sits next to the SSR and ramps up the duty cycle of the SSR over a 3-second period. There is (was) another variant that had a variable ramp up time. Crydom has replaced these with more complicated modules but the old ones are still around.

http://www.crydom.com/en/products/catalog/AdvancedWebPage.aspx?CategoryText1=Obsolete%20Products&CategoryText2=SST%20Series%20Soft-start%20modules&SBCatPage=

73/jeff/ac0c
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-----Original Message----- From: TexasRF@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:22 PM
To: bcarling@cfl.rr.com ; w7ry@centurytel.net
Cc: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Solid state relays..again

Surge limiter. usually installed in one leg of the AC line  connection.
When cold, have high resistance. When hot, low resistance. So, they run warm
to hot when in use. You would not want them to be located in a  stream of
cooling air as that could spoil the low R characteristic.

Very interesting and useful device. I use them to limit turn on filament
current in large transmitting tubes.

Available through Mouser and other distributors.

73,
Gerald K5GW



In a message dated 2/13/2014 10:15:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
bcarling@cfl.rr.com writes:

The  little black varistor thingies work quite nicely for eliminating that
"THUMMMPP!" in small to medium-size equipment.

I don't really know what  they are but somebody gave me a whole bunch of
them a while back. I have two  or three different sizes.

Best regards - Bry  Carling



On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Jim W7RY  <w7ry@centurytel.net> wrote:

That's why I put step  start in my large Astron power supplies. No more
thump. No more blown up power  switches.

73
Jim W7RY

On  2/13/2014 4:01 AM, Ken Durand wrote:
" And this, my dear friends,  is why equipment with steel boxes and big
transformers inside can  make that "WHummpppp" at the moment it's
switched
on.

Of course, in equipment controlled by a simple mechanical power  switch,
it's
impossible to decide when exactly in the cycle the  switch will close.
It's
this a lottery how close we will get to  the peak voltage point, or the
zero
crossing. That's why sometimes  the "WHummpppp" is strong, sometimes
weaker,
and sometimes even  non-existent."

Thanks for that bit of wisdom Manfred.  I never could figure out why
sometimes I get the "WHummpppp" and  other times the sound would be quite
different or non-existent  like you described.

Ken
N4zed

-----Original Message-----
From: Amps  [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Manfred
 Mornhinweg
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:56 PM
 To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Solid state  relays..again

Hello,

 Once in a while that thing turns on with a WHummpppp and a low
 frequency ringing that just trails off.
Let's see if I can explain  this in a way everyone can  understand.
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