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Re: [Amps] grounding grids

To: Carl <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>, Herzog <herzog@frontiernet.net>, Ham-amps <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] grounding grids
From: "Fuqua, Bill L" <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:13:05 -0400
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  It is very helpful to question what has been done in the past so we can learn 
from it.
Making real measurements helps also. I did not see the details of your 
experiment 
but comparison with directly grounded grids and the original circuit in the 
same amplifier
would be useful.  I have not seen all the email exchanges on this subject and I 
may have 
missed the details. 
  I after my emails are downloaded to my office computer I can't view them with 
my home 
computer. 

73
Bill wa4lav
________________________________________
From: Carl [km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:38 AM
To: Fuqua, Bill L; Herzog; Ham-amps
Subject: Re: [Amps] grounding grids

Mine is to leave things alone after performing the PM and other improvements
I mentioned earlier.

I get a kick out of a small minority always thinking they are better than
the design engineers. Yet when it comes to providing more than talk the
silence is deafening.

I also mentioned earlier that my spectrum analyzer tests showed a small IMD
improvement with the grids as built. My testing covered 80 to 6M. This was
later confirmed by Jacks report from the Drake L-4 designer.

Carl
KM1H

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fuqua, Bill L" <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
To: "Herzog" <herzog@frontiernet.net>; "Ham-amps" <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] grounding grids


> The question we should ask now what are our preferences in grounding
> grids.
> Mine is as direct to ground as possible with the least series impedance.
>
> 73
> Bill wa4lav
> PS Has the gentleman trying out the 4cx250Bs in grounded grid (control
> grid connected to cathode) gotten any results?
> I would like to know how it turned out.
>
> 73
> Bill wa4lav
>
> ________________________________________
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of Herzog [herzog@frontiernet.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:44 PM
> To: Ham-amps
> Subject: [Amps] grounding grids
>
> RE:  What makes you think that the impedance between the grid and
> common changes by a factor of 10:1 between 3.5 and 29.7 MHz?
> 73
> Gary K4FMX
> =============
> That is a red herring.  Because the frequency ratio is about 10 to one
> is the answer.
>    This begs the question as to whether the impedance is enough to care
> about, and cap or inductive,  or a series resonance.  Such wonderful
> considerations are why we can discuss this matter after over 50 years.
> Wil
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