| The solid state MW50 was moved to GA to a station there,  I kept the old 
tube
MW50,  it used 4cx35000 tubes,  and parted it out.   Junked the HV 
tranny as it
was starting to leak oil and was PCB infected.  Still have the 600amp 3 
phase service.
Cut down the 300 ft towers,  they were rusting,  kept the radial systems 
and coax 
feeds etc.  station was 830KHZ KAIM 50KW.   Gone now about 9 or 10 years.
Run QRP with Alpha 99 and AL-1500.
Merv
 
So did you keep the transmitter Merv??  :)
On 6/6/2017 5:42 PM, Merv Schweigert via Amps wrote:
 Cant quote you the device numbers,  but have seen KW plus MOSFETS 
around since the
middle to late 1990s.    When I purchased this AM station property 
there was a Harris
50KW chugging along,  it used 50 MOSFET modules,  50 for RF and 50 
for modulation.
plug in boards and would auto adjust if a module went down,  it kept 
running fine at
lower power.
Commercial use has existed for some time.  perhaps price and class of 
service was not 
conducive to amateur use,  but they have been around.
By the way the Harris 50KW ran 85 to 90 percent efficient, thats 
power line in to power out. 
73 Merv K9FD/KH6
 OK, name some 1400W solid state devices and they're first date of 
manufacture. Seems to me they didn't exist until a few years ago.
You don't like solid state....we get it.
People didn't like cars and tractors much when they drove horses out 
to pasture either. 
On 6/5/2017 9:54 PM, w8hw@comcast.net wrote:
 
Larry,
You made and proved my point for me. The transistor you mention is 
NOT an 1400 watt class (as I specified in the email) in fact your 
transistor is not even close, it is closer to 140 watt out (if 
memory serves) That makes your statement off by a factor of 10. You 
asked me to be careful, I was very carful to specify 1400 watt 
class in my email. 
Thank you , Bruce, W8HW
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-----Original Message----- From: Larry Benko
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 20:40
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] LDMOS availability
Bruce,
The MRF-150 came out in 1983/84 and Helge Granberg produced the 
Motorola
app not EB-104 using the XRF-150 in the same year.  It is still 
readily 
available.  Be careful with your FACTS!
Larry, W0QE
On 6/5/2017 5:12 PM, w8hw@comcast.net wrote:
 Actually you do NOT have your crystal ball to predict the future 
so your statement is NOT based in fact, only an opinion. I prefer 
to go with facts, so hear we go.
FACT... Because we can not see into the future, we only have 
history to look at. 
FACT... History has shown us that RF power devices have NOT 
survived 15 years of manufacture very well... IN FACT... I 
challenge you to show me the facts. Show me a solid state RF 
transistor in that power class (RF 1400 watts out) that has been 
in production for 15 years and is still in production today. I am 
open minded and would love to see your report. 
FACT... I noticed that you did not mention if they agree to the 
$100k Guarantee. Why is that important, see below. 
FACT... If they are sure that they will keep production going 
until the year 2032 (15 years), then that guarantee should BE NO 
PROBLEM for them. Talk is cheep 
FACT... If you feel that is an unfair request, then that tells us 
that (Deep down) you do not believe them either. Please do not 
tell me that you DO have a crystal ball. 
FACT... Many high power tubes (8877 and 3-500) do have a rich 40+ 
year history with no end in sight. 
FACT... I have purchased the BLF188 because I CAN afford both the 
cost and the risk. However people who can not afford the cost and 
risk may wish to take this into consideration. 
FACT... I have been in the RF repair industry since 1971 and have 
seen and faced this issue happen over and over again. How long 
have you been in it??? 
73, Bruce, W8HW
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-----Original Message----- From: Per Molund
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 14:55
To: w8hw@comcast.net ; amps@contesting.com ; Tom Thompson
Subject: Re: [Amps] LDMOS availability
Actually they have put it in writing, on the data sheet (although
prelimenary at the moment) they state 'Included in NXP product
longevity program with assured supply for a minimum of 15 years after
launch' which I see as a quite firm commitment. Or do You have an
example that NXP has not fullfilled their 'longevity program'
commitment for some components?
73 de LA9XKA - Per
At 19:08 05.06.2017, w8hw@comcast.net wrote:
 Talk is cheep. Ask them if they will put that in writing? Also 
ask if they will put a penalty clause stating they will give you 
a $100k payment should they fail the 15 year test. After all if 
it was true, they should have no problems with that. On the other 
hand if they baulk , that tells you that they are just talk with 
no truth. Additionally, Please be honest... If you are reluctant 
to ask them for that guarantee, that shows that you KNOW they are 
just talk. Someone or Anyone let me know if anyone gets that 
guarantee.
Remember company plans do change with new management or when they 
get a bad P&L. This is especially true if they are listed on any 
exchange such as NASDAQ. Like the dip in early 2016 (NXPI at $65) 
and now back on a good clime this year ($109.00) now. companies 
tend to make strong claims on the peek and pull claims back 
claims on the stock dip. Often they have no choice. The device 
market history is the only good indicator. Solid State RF power 
devices still have a very poor history. Translation... the market 
speaks with authority, companies just talk. 
I have a solid state amp (dual BLF188) homebrew amp, and have two 
(2) tube amps one of which is AL-1500 with 8877 tube. I love them 
all, but understand the risk of SS replacement as I have been in 
broadcasting or the RF repair business since 1971 and a Ham since 
1962. I have lived through everything that I have said above. 
73, Bruce, W8HW
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-----Original Message----- From: Tom Thompson
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 11:18
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: [Amps] LDMOS availability
I recently took part in a webinar on the new, 1800 watt, 65 volt, 
LDMOS
transistors made by NXP.  It is the MRFX1K80, and NXP plans to 
produce 
it for at least 15 years.
Tom   W0IVJ
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