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[Amps] wires through center of coax

To: amps@contesting.com, "Fuqua, Bill L" <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>, sub1@rogerhalstead.com
Subject: [Amps] wires through center of coax
From: John Lyles <jtml@losalamos.com>
Reply-to: jtml@vla.com
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 01:17:37 -0700
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Use of a quarter wave stub is common in fixed-frequency high power work 
to introduce mechanical linkages or electrical circuits that need to be 
inside the center conductor of a coaxial transmission line. As long as 
it is designed to be very close to lambda/4 in length, it should be 
transparent to the RF travelling in the coax. I have done this at 2 
meters and at 462 Mhz using RG8 to put a DC short on radios to limit 
lightning damage on the monopole antenna. This quarter wave is a half 
wave for the second harmonic, which would introduce a short across the 
coax for this frequency. So there is a benefit in that the even 
harmonics get suppressed even more.

In actuality, for large diameter transmission lines where the diameter 
is a large fraction of wavelength (like 9 3/16 inch OD) the measured 
quarter wave and measured half wave do not agree exactly. We proved this 
last summer with both network analyzer sweeps as well as modeling with 
CST Microwave Studio. The result of this is that there is some small 
modification of the plate current waveform by this stub, but it is still 
small enough to ignore, a few kW out of MW. And of course, stubs are not 
so good when freq must change, unless special care is taken to broadband 
the stub with some matching at the Tee. This is covered in the 
literature but not so easy to practice.

In the "olden" days, quarter wave stubs were referred to as 'metallic 
insulators' for supporting the center conductor of coax or open wire 
transmission lines. I am using the stub to introduce a tuner (paddle) 
into my cavity amplifier, which allows me to adjust loading (coupling) 
of the output circuit while under power. Two methods work, sliding 
contacts and bellows for the center conductor extension. I chose 
bellows, but am nervous enough to now install an RTD to the inside to 
measure temperature when I am operating at > 300 kW average power. At 
VHF the skin effect helps but there is also series inductance of the 
bellows convolutions.

> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 23:16:00 -0500
> From: "Fuqua, Bill L"<wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] wires through center of coax
> To: "Roger (K8RI)"<sub1@rogerhalstead.com>, "amps@contesting.com"
>       <amps@contesting.com>
> Question, how do you place a wire in an hollow conductor with out creating a 
> path for RF current on the outside to the inside?
>
> 73
> Bill wa4lav

>

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