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Re: [Amps] 300Hz sidebands

To: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com, g0ruz@g0ruz.com, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] 300Hz sidebands
From: "sm0aom@telia.com" <sm0aom@telia.com>
Reply-to: sm0aom@telia.com
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 13:02:22 +0200 (CEST)
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Yes, a sense of perspective and proportions always helps.

A lot of current amateur gear show quite atrocious adjacent channel 
performance, 
especially in the hands of the "all knobs to the right" crowd.

I am currently engaged as a consultant in an HF transmitter procurement project 
for air/ground services,
where adjacent channel performance actually is taken seriously. 

Here the "specmanship" in terms of power output
and distortion levels from certain manufacturers really shows off.

It shows without doubt that in order to have "clean" signals, you have
to specify carefully, pay a lot, and finally operate your gear within 
specifications.

I have read the works of K9YC, and he is cited in the paper, 
"Performance Limitations For HF Communications Systems Using Realisable 
Hardware Solutions" 
that SM5HP and I wrote for the Nordic HF Conference in 2019 about how the 
improvements in receiver technology have essentially become "nullified" by the 
worsening transmitter adjacent channel emissions.

It is no real "point" in marketing receivers boasting 110 dB close-in dynamic 
ranges, when current transmitters are 
in the -30 to -50 dB range in the first and second adjacent channels.

73/
Karl-Arne
SM0AOM


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Datum : 2021-05-26 - 11:15 (CEST)
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Ämne : Re: [Amps] 300Hz sidebands

On 5/26/2021 1:31 AM, Conrad PA5Y wrote:
> As Bob AH7I pointed out at 1KW out the sidebands are 10mW, so I will continue 
> to use the amp

Conrad,

As an engineer, I LOVE your proper sense of perspective. Here in the 
former colonies, I often see splatter 0n 40M, most of it produced by 
Yeasu rigs, that extends 2-3 kHz on both sides of the intentional 
bandwidth, and only 20 dB down. That's 10W from a 1kW transmitter, and 
the signal is 3 times wider than a clean SSB signal.

Any ham who transmits SSB with one of these atrocities is violating the 
FCC regs on bandwidth that specify (and I'm paraphrasing here) that 
occupied bandwidth shall be no greater than that required for the means 
of transmission. In other words, if you're splatting wider than an 
un-distorted SSB signal, you are in violation.

For years, I've had the P3 spectrum display with SVGA option hooked up 
to my Elecraft K3, and I occasionally watch roundtable SSB QSOs. 
Typically one or two stations will be textbook clean, while others will 
have that splatter than I've described. And it's not subtle -- the 
difference jumps out at you. Obviously the same problems can be caused 
by poor or poorly operated power amps, but IMO, they're getting blamed 
for a lot of problems caused by these lousy rigs!

73, Jim K9YC


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